[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange

I like the idea. There are already a bunch of people who have preordered/placed a deposit with a dealer, why not get your car a few weeks earlier. You are basically entering for a chance to take delivery before it goes on sale to other people. What's wrong with that?

I still don't understand the problem with them not announcing pricing yet either. Once they announce the price you will know it. It will be before you can buy the car.

Just like almost every other car ever.

Jeff

Here's my opinion on the pricing and option lists that everyone wants, and my feel on the reasoning so many feel strongly about it.

First, I think it'd created by the fact that you can get basically the same car from two different manufacturers, which leads to inherent competition between the two based on pricing and option/feature availability. This determines which dealership (at least for those early adopters) gets the deposit on the car.

The problem is people are having to "blindly" sign up for at least one, if not both, and that’s annoying for those people. If pricing and option lists were provided the consumer could make an *intelligent* choice regarding what they want. That’s why people (myself included) want pricing. I’m on the list with the local Subaru dealer, and I will shoot for one of the first 86 slots. If they would have released pricing/option lists I can guarantee you that I would only sign up for one (either Subaru or Scion) but right now I have no way to make that determination so I have to waste my time, the dealers time, and possibly Scions time by signing up for both. I will buy one as early as I can get one simply because I want one, but I can’t plan for which one I want, how much I’ll want to put down, what options, etc currently, and from a pre-order perspective, that annoys the heck out of me. Even VW can figure out pricing months in advance of a car going on sale (like that did with the new Golf R). It’s not rocket science. They determined the pricing and released it well before release (AFAIK it’s still not released but soon). That pricing and options list/options pricing made me decide that the car was simply not worth the money to me so I was able to avoid wasting my time, in addition to the time of a sales guy at the VW dealership.

Granted there are also some that, without ever driving the car, have set a “value” to the car that IMO seems unreasonably low (i.e. some of the $19k, $21k max type posts we’ve seen), those people probably just want the price so they will know not to plan on buying an ft86 variant for at least a year until they can snag a used one.