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Old 01-11-2012, 12:17 PM   #107
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Originally Posted by switchlanez View Post
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Agreed. Considering First 86 is something we individuals have direct control over signing up, our collective action may have an impact (even if miniscule) on MSRP. Or it may not! The disparity on this forum community certainly doesn't help. It's better to be conscious about the *possibility* than dismiss it altogether in carelessness, ignorance, arrogance, whatever. What other things do we have direct control over that may impact MSRP? Anybody? I challenge you to name just ONE thing.

Do the nay-sayers really believe Scion will completely ignore the number of entrants? That's valuable statistical data! Each entry is a near perfect statistic. Why near perfect? Entrants need to consider there's a $500 deposit required upon selection and will have to pay MSRP. We didn't have to make such commitments in order to 1) get hyped about this car, 2) join Scion's mailing list, or 3) join this forum <-- data drawn from these 3 things require extensive *subjective* analysis to extrapolate convoluted statistics that are fuzzy at best (btw a convolution is a mathematical operation in statistics. I've done them and they're ugly). Metrics taken from First 86 or from deposits made at dealerships are discrete and *objective* tick marks; much closer to perfect data for compiling a demand forecast.

Also consider this key fact: First 86 starts and ends tomorrow and FR-S launches in Spring (March 20ish-May 20ish). What will Scion corporate be doing between January 12th and March 20ish? Pull 86 names from a bowl then twiddle their thumbs and sit on their hands? Tinkering with data and tweaking price figures will not halt the production line in Gunma.

Something that Scion has no control over is what Subaru decides to sell the BRZ for. It is a safe bet that the lesser equipped FR-S will be less costly then the BRZ. At this point they know ballpark within a grand or so what the BRZ will start at, (comparable to the price of a base WRX) they have to work against this. If they are tweaking it a few hundred dollars this way or that way, it has no effect on my ability, likely your ability, nor most anyone's ability to purchase this vehicle. If one is sweating a $500 (possibly) swing on the retail price, they can't afford it and have no business purchasing the car. We can speculate till we are blue in the face, and once the figures are released, no matter how fair the price, some will still complain. I think it would be foolish to expect a significant bump from that WRX baseline. You are savvy enough to know that for this to be a success, they will have to contend with Subaru, Ford and Hyundai on the pricing front as well. In real life, when it gets down to the actually parting with money, people tend to put more weight on price then they do on emotion.
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