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Old 08-02-2013, 02:39 PM   #131
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Originally Posted by daschtick View Post
This is where we differ - You want a car with good bones to tune, and I just want a good car. I am really not interested in modifying anything, especially on a brand new car. I figure if I just payed a large sum of cash, I want the car to be 'done', and fully qualified by the manufacturer. I don't want to drive a $30,000 backyard science experiment.
Then you should go out and get yourself a c5/c6 corvette and be done with it.


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Whoa there, I wouldn't so blatantly dismiss these cars - it diminishes your credibility! That "turd handling Mustang" has been well documented to be able outperform the BMW M3, even with its solid rear axle, While the "wrong wheel drive understeering tragedy Focus" (not to mention the Fiesta ST) is still faster around the track than the twins. These cars have significantly raised the bar for hot hatch performance. Next you'll be ripping on the new Corvette for antiquated push rods!
Though the new Mustang turned in equal to slightly better laptimes to the M3, it does not negate the fact that it's still a boat to drive. Not confident inspiring. I'm willing to throw down money that the average joe would be able to drive the m3 faster around a track than the stang. The ST is definitely faster out of the box as seen by tests. But that still doesn't mean it's a better driving car. Not to mention, being a front wheel squeeler it will never come close to ultimate race car potential like the gt86.

Let's not sway from the original topic and keep this an MR-S vs FRS/BRZ thing.
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