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Originally Posted by thill
I really appreciate your honesty and insight. I know you are right about this, and my installer was pretty much telling me that, just like home theater, EQ in the car will make all difference. Which is why he likes the OEM + solution. I do agree with you on this and it will be addressed, but it might be a few months since I have other priorities like getting my car paid off. I am going to go over my options with the installer. Are there any particular EQ processing options you recommend on a budget? There are tons of options out there.
Yes, if I did not I would be going with something like a JL Stealth or other custom solution that fits my car. I built all my home theater subs and had fun with it, so I plan on learning and having fun with the car sub. For about $20 or so in wood, if I am not happy, that is about all I am out and can use the driver in a different enclosure.
This is good info. Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences. Looking at the hybrid speakers (this is the first I have heard of them) and the Imagine series, these are 2 way, correct, not 3 way? None of the installers I spoke with mentioned them, but I will do a little more research on them. I have already purchased the JL's at a very discounted rate, but I may be able to use them in our other car, because off axis is important to me, since I assume as the driver, I would potentially be sitting off-axis....
Thanks, again this is something I will need to consider. I am hoping EQ could assist, but obviously speaker design is essential.
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An EQ can help, but you're always better off starting with better off axis response, and fix from there. I didn't keep a screen shot of my car speakers pre and post EQ, but the difference is huge, and I have ~$1400 in speakers in my car.
For EQs, there is the MS-8, Mosconi 6-8, Rockford Fosgate 3Sixty.3 and Arc Audio PS8. Can't help you on budget, because anything cheaper is a waste of money, as you'll just re-buy it again. You want at least 1/3rd octave on every channel.
The Imagine series from Hybrid Audio is only 2 way, but was linking it as that is what you were looking at. The Legatia series has 3 way, but a 3 way setup there costs in the range of ~1000 depending on options.
For reference, my BRZ has L6 in the door, L3v2 and L1v2 in dash. (L6v2 is current model). My rears are L3 (Not l3v2, no phase plug). I also have an L2x used for the mid range to tweeter crossover, so I can use 4 amp channels for the front rather than 6.
FYI, JL makes a nice speaker, but as a driver, you're often off axis in many cars. Some cars are more on axis than others, so depending on vehicle, YMMV. My recommendation with speakers comes specifically with the BRZ location.
One thing I like about Hybrid is that they're very efficient. Often high end speakers require huge amps, those do not. I am running the front stage off of an amp rated at 60x4. (Rockford Fosgate Power T400-4).