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Originally Posted by thill
Yeah, too late  Going the 2 way route and will see what happens. Worse case I add the 3.5's back into the mix, but the installer was concerned about getting these to integrate correctly and told me a good 2 way setup is easier. We will find out..
I was checking out their enclosures and like them, but am building my own custom enclosure that should take up minimal space as well. Should cost me less than $20 for the enclosure since I already have all the tools already and it really just comes down to buying a 4x4 piece of 13 ply baltic birch.
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First things first, Don't care how good the install is, You will rarely get great results without an EQ. This is just a fact. (Disclaimer, my definition of good is very high). Time alignment is key, as you can adjust the phase of the speakers to simulate them being equidistant from you, as they would be in a good home audio setup.
If you can build a great enclosure, go for it. There is one reason I don't: I live in an apartment, and do not have the space for a workshop.
Now as for the two-way setup, you'll end up seeing two effects.
1. Low sound stage: This is where while the high "airy" sound (like cymbal crashes) will come from your windshield, much of the lower sound (saxophone, horns, low guitar (meaning low notes)), will sound like they're coming from lower down. Some people do not care much about this, but it is something that is there.
2. Muddy mid range: The doors, specifically the left door, is not going to be good for the mid range areas. Lower mid range / upper midbass area sound tends to spread differently. As you move to higher frequency, sound gets more directional. This means that since if you look at your left door, you do not have a path to your left ear from the woofer. There is pretty much nothing that can solve this. FYI, given how off axis your left door is, (in most cars) any woofer without a phase plug will not work well in that application period. The C5 does not have a phase plug, meaning the off axis response is likely poor. The few Helix speakers I googled look like nice construction, but again, the lack of a phase plug will be detrimental to what you're trying to do.
http://hybrid-audio.com/imagine/
I'd check those out for your setup. I would not use their Stage III or IV, (higher end) as those lack the phase plug, and will not be as good. The stage V and VI are excellent, and are what I use in my own system. (Excellent off-axis response)
I just include those for a reference, but there are many woofers with decent off axis response, but typically they have to have a phase plug, or you get your left / right difference being huge.