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Originally Posted by Anaxilus

Yes you are, those numbers are completely wrong on a SMT which has already adapted/broken in rather than out of the box in the hands of an auto journalist for a few hours. The SMT has definitely gotten faster over time, it was slow new. My SMT and a friends are easily in the 6-7 sec range 0-60. Not sure what year MR-S those numbers are from either and whether it had the older ECU, pre-cat failures, underbracing, LSD and weaker front suspension mounting points found in the non facelifts. Rear tire size was also changed. You also forgot to compare weight, dimensions and steering feel/feedback. For all the 86's great CoG, the MR-S is lower still. It's a poor mans Lotus, the FR-S is not. I also recall seeing .92 on the skidpad for a stock MR-S and 101 feet 60-0 before but that was more than 8 years ago.

Fact is, I have a stock MR-S SMT as does a friend who bought his at the same time I did, last 2005 MY. I have a FRS, he has driven an FRS, neither of us find the FRS equal in any measure except for top end power/speed. We will both end up owning both but that's how the comparo works out driven back to back. Not 12-13 years apart in completely different conditions w/ different drivers. His is bone stock, mine has Volk CE28Ns, lighter battery and no spare w/ lots of pretty Carbing bracing. He drove the FRS MT, mine is an AT fyi.

Comparing a 2zz MR-S is the same as a 1zz MR-S except w/ less power. The chassis and layout is just superior in physics compared to the FRS. Simple.

youre going to need to explain that to me because it doesnt seem that simple