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PMok It was too late to get there. I worked out took a shower saw the time I would be late and by then you guys be doing the drive. So I decided to do my own driving I remember someone mentioned about doing mines rd recently but I don't remember the thread. I was hoping I may see another 86 but I didn't. Just a lot of bicyclist and a lonesome 911. I was planning to do a drive somewhere near monterey I forgot the road name but I looked at the distance. An hour away. I was like damn so I went through the whole route of mt hamilton