[fatoni]

Originally Posted by enwave

Hehehe. Too true. It secretly hurts my feelings that this even compares at all... but unfortunately it does.

Also, @fatoni -- I know an exhaust, tune, tires, intake don't count as stock. That's what I'm saying -- with minor modifications you can get a car that is infinitely more fun to drive with comparable power and performance. Do the same things to a Cobalt SS and you still get that funky drivetrain, awkward ride height, soft suspension, ugly styling, FWD, and -- most importantly -- Chevy logos.

The twins come with the refinement out of the box, and the SS comes with that extra power out of the box. I can always add power, but I can't as easily add that magical driver's feedback and driving experience. That's what the Cobalt really lacks, in my opinion.

Because of that, I'd take the FR-S/BRZ any day of the week. In fact, the only car I'd really consider swapping it for in a realistic price range is a used S2000 or Miata.

i think the cobalts handling gets underrated simply because its not its not its greatest strength and people are generally uninformed. its kinda like how this forum will talk about how the rx8 sucks because its rotary doesnt make any torque despite the fact that it makes more torque than the frs. dont think that i feel that the cobalt is a more fun or better driver than the frs. i just think its worth noting that its not only fast for a fwd car but fast for a car in general.