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gvan1998 · 07-16-2013, 01:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishii Motors

Good Question.

I'm yet to hold the OEM kit in my hand however a few differences can be seen.

First I feel the difference between Maker option and Dealer Option must be explained.
Maker option is any optional equipment that is only put into the car at the assembly plant.
Dealer Option is any optional equipment that can be installed at any time at either the Port or at a dealership.
In General Maker option is of higher quality and fitment.

With that said, the Scion OEM fog light kit is a Dealer Option part. The kit I supply is similar to a Maker Option.

Fog light housing Differences
It appears the Scion OEM kit comes with fog light housings that have more reflector lines in them unlike the more smooth ones that I supply.

Fog light mounting Differences
I don't know why but the Scion OEM kit comes with these silly brackets for mounting the fog lights to the bumper.

The Scion OEM kit only uses these brackets.
The JDM 86, BRZ and Export model BRZ all mount the fog lights in a different way. Out kit uses the Exact same hardware for mounting the fog light housings to the bumper as the original JDM 86 and all BRZ.

Now I say the Scion OEM kit is silly because you would have to remove the front bezel to remove the fog light with any ease. Whereas the Original Equipment (JDM 86, BRZ and our kit) you can unscrew the fog light and remove it from inside the bumper without removing the bezel, just as our kit.

SWITCH Differences
The OEM kit comes with a switch that mounts on the lower left of the dash panel.
Our kit comes with a replacement turn signal stalk (more like a Maker Option).

Harness Differences
The harness that comes in the Scion OEM kit is not plug and play. The way it wires in is just like most Dealer option parts. It is not plug and play.

The way the wire harness assembly on the Scion OEM kit comes appears that it is made outside of Japan.
Our wire harness is made like the JDM 86 harness.

I will purchase a Scion OEM kit to inspect more carefully all the differences but,
I feel our product is still a viable product and the price reflects perfectly what it is worth. I will continue to make our kit available.

Ishii

Installation Instructions
I have uploaded the installation instructions online. They may be viewed at the following link:
http://www.141motors.com/services/fr...structions.pdf
I wasdeciding which kit to buy, this or the factory. I purchased the Factory Scion USA kit. Here are my conclusions.

First I feel the difference between Maker option and Dealer Option must be explained.
Maker option is any optional equipment that is only put into the car at the assembly plant.
Dealer Option is any optional equipment that can be installed at any time at either the Port or at a dealership.
In General Maker option is of higher quality and fitment.

With that said, the Scion OEM fog light kit is a Dealer Option part. The kit I supply is similar to a Maker Option.

Actually Scion USA kit is a Maker option. To prove my point, go to Scion's website. It is listed as factory accessoy and not a dealer option.

Fog light housing Differences
It appears the Scion OEM kit comes with fog light housings that have more reflector lines in them unlike the more smooth ones that I supply.

Cant really comment on this. I believe factory housing is better, I rather trust toyota than a 3rd party aftermarket.

Fog light mounting Differences
I don't know why but the Scion OEM kit comes with these silly brackets for mounting the fog lights to the bumper.

The Scion OEM kit only uses these brackets.
The JDM 86, BRZ and Export model BRZ all mount the fog lights in a different way. Out kit uses the Exact same hardware for mounting the fog light housings to the bumper as the original JDM 86 and all BRZ.

Now I say the Scion OEM kit is silly because you would have to remove the front bezel to remove the fog light with any ease. Whereas the Original Equipment (JDM 86, BRZ and our kit) you can unscrew the fog light and remove it from inside the bumper without removing the bezel, just as our kit.

Scion uses these brackets for safety precaution. These bracket creates space between the actual foglight and the housing so the fogs wont melt the housing. So i wouldnt call it silly.

SWITCH Differences
The OEM kit comes with a switch that mounts on the lower left of the dash panel.
Our kit comes with a replacement turn signal stalk (more like a Maker Option).

I like the button that the Scion factory kit uses. Less labor, you dont have to remove air bag or the steering wheel. There is a unused pre-wire under the dash that will plug right into the factory button.

Harness Differences
The harness that comes in the Scion OEM kit is not plug and play. The way it wires in is just like most Dealer option parts. It is not plug and play.

The way the wire harness assembly on the Scion OEM kit comes appears that it is made outside of Japan.
Our wire harness is made like the JDM 86 harness.

Please do your research before stating that the Scion USA is not a plug and play kit. It is 100% full plug and play kit, No splicing wires at all. Its actually the easiest foglamp install I ever did. Just plug 1 wire to the factory prewire and your all set. Almost everything is made outside USA or Japan, at least its made by toyota factory. Again I rather trust TOyota harness than homemade harness.

It was the easiest install I ever did.Factory Kit just plugs into existing plug. No modications what so ever. PLus its cheaper than this aftermaket kit and its 100% covered under warranty.

07-16-2013, 01:09 PM	#1
gvan1998 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Blue FRS Location: MD Posts: 159 Thanks: 1 Thanked 45 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Factory Scion Fog lamp kit vs. Ishii Motors fog kit Quote: Originally Posted by Ishii Motors Good Question. I'm yet to hold the OEM kit in my hand however a few differences can be seen. First I feel the difference between Maker option and Dealer Option must be explained. Maker option is any optional equipment that is only put into the car at the assembly plant. Dealer Option is any optional equipment that can be installed at any time at either the Port or at a dealership. In General Maker option is of higher quality and fitment. With that said, the Scion OEM fog light kit is a Dealer Option part. The kit I supply is similar to a Maker Option. Fog light housing Differences It appears the Scion OEM kit comes with fog light housings that have more reflector lines in them unlike the more smooth ones that I supply. Fog light mounting Differences I don't know why but the Scion OEM kit comes with these silly brackets for mounting the fog lights to the bumper. The Scion OEM kit only uses these brackets. The JDM 86, BRZ and Export model BRZ all mount the fog lights in a different way. Out kit uses the Exact same hardware for mounting the fog light housings to the bumper as the original JDM 86 and all BRZ. Now I say the Scion OEM kit is silly because you would have to remove the front bezel to remove the fog light with any ease. Whereas the Original Equipment (JDM 86, BRZ and our kit) you can unscrew the fog light and remove it from inside the bumper without removing the bezel, just as our kit. SWITCH Differences The OEM kit comes with a switch that mounts on the lower left of the dash panel. Our kit comes with a replacement turn signal stalk (more like a Maker Option). Harness Differences The harness that comes in the Scion OEM kit is not plug and play. The way it wires in is just like most Dealer option parts. It is not plug and play. The way the wire harness assembly on the Scion OEM kit comes appears that it is made outside of Japan. Our wire harness is made like the JDM 86 harness. I will purchase a Scion OEM kit to inspect more carefully all the differences but, I feel our product is still a viable product and the price reflects perfectly what it is worth. I will continue to make our kit available. Ishii Installation Instructions I have uploaded the installation instructions online. They may be viewed at the following link: http://www.141motors.com/services/fr...structions.pdf I wasdeciding which kit to buy, this or the factory. I purchased the Factory Scion USA kit. Here are my conclusions. First I feel the difference between Maker option and Dealer Option must be explained. Maker option is any optional equipment that is only put into the car at the assembly plant. Dealer Option is any optional equipment that can be installed at any time at either the Port or at a dealership. In General Maker option is of higher quality and fitment. With that said, the Scion OEM fog light kit is a Dealer Option part. The kit I supply is similar to a Maker Option. Actually Scion USA kit is a Maker option. To prove my point, go to Scion's website. It is listed as factory accessoy and not a dealer option. Fog light housing Differences It appears the Scion OEM kit comes with fog light housings that have more reflector lines in them unlike the more smooth ones that I supply. Cant really comment on this. I believe factory housing is better, I rather trust toyota than a 3rd party aftermarket. Fog light mounting Differences I don't know why but the Scion OEM kit comes with these silly brackets for mounting the fog lights to the bumper. The Scion OEM kit only uses these brackets. The JDM 86, BRZ and Export model BRZ all mount the fog lights in a different way. Out kit uses the Exact same hardware for mounting the fog light housings to the bumper as the original JDM 86 and all BRZ. Now I say the Scion OEM kit is silly because you would have to remove the front bezel to remove the fog light with any ease. Whereas the Original Equipment (JDM 86, BRZ and our kit) you can unscrew the fog light and remove it from inside the bumper without removing the bezel, just as our kit. Scion uses these brackets for safety precaution. These bracket creates space between the actual foglight and the housing so the fogs wont melt the housing. So i wouldnt call it silly. SWITCH Differences The OEM kit comes with a switch that mounts on the lower left of the dash panel. Our kit comes with a replacement turn signal stalk (more like a Maker Option). I like the button that the Scion factory kit uses. Less labor, you dont have to remove air bag or the steering wheel. There is a unused pre-wire under the dash that will plug right into the factory button. Harness Differences The harness that comes in the Scion OEM kit is not plug and play. The way it wires in is just like most Dealer option parts. It is not plug and play. The way the wire harness assembly on the Scion OEM kit comes appears that it is made outside of Japan. Our wire harness is made like the JDM 86 harness. Please do your research before stating that the Scion USA is not a plug and play kit. It is 100% full plug and play kit, No splicing wires at all. Its actually the easiest foglamp install I ever did. Just plug 1 wire to the factory prewire and your all set. Almost everything is made outside USA or Japan, at least its made by toyota factory. Again I rather trust TOyota harness than homemade harness. It was the easiest install I ever did.Factory Kit just plugs into existing plug. No modications what so ever. PLus its cheaper than this aftermaket kit and its 100% covered under warranty.