[Nightbringer]

If this conversation was between you and John you'd have done it over PM and not cluttered up Jybrd's thread with this bullshit. So far, John's the only one between the two of you that offered him helpful advice: tune and header are the best bang for the buck. <--- That was the point of the thread, incase it's been buried in the bickering.

We all want a tune that performs better and most are willing to pay for it. Yes, we've heard you say FA20Club is superior. I've heard Toma say BRZEdit is superior. If you post dynos from these two turbo cars, unless you have charts from the same dyno on the same day with Visconti's tune it doesn't really show a damn thing. Everyone is cognicent of how easy it is to mislead with dyno results. Also you never clarified: did Visconti have the opportunity to tune these cars on a dyno, or was only FA20Club's?

As far as your bet to pay double... How about you find an arbitrary source that isn't already entrenched in personal conflict? Most chiming in here are already biased. Witnesses would even the playing field, but how about spending the time and effort to give BACK something to this community and assemble a proper, scientific test of ALL the major tune offerings on the market at this juncture? That's MY dare to all of you.

Comparing what you guys can do in person on a dyno doesn't help 99% of this community. Tune remotely via logs. Get the customer's car dialed in on each tune, and then run them back to back on the same day and see who wins.