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Levi · 12-31-2011, 01:07 PM

FFS!
TU is only lighter than NA when is makes 200 PS/L. However, the more power you want the get from a TU engine, the more you need to add weight. To get more power from a NA engine, on the contrary the engine gets lighter.

BMW N54
TT 3.0l I6
306 PS @ 5.800 RPM
400 Nm @ 1.300-5.000 RPM
Redline @ 7.000 RPM
195 kg

BMW N62
NA 4.0l V8
306 PS @ 6.300 RPM
390 Nm @ 3.500 RPM
Redline @ 6.500 RPM
265 kg

BMW S65
NA 4.0l V8
420 PS @ 8.300 RPM
400 Nm @ 3.900 RPM
Redline @ 8.400 RPM
202 kg

I think I do not need to add any words, the numbers speek for themselves.

Also, the FI McLAren MP4-12C still did not outperform the NA Ferrari 458 Italia!

12-31-2011, 01:07 PM	#92
Levi Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Toyota Location: Germany Posts: 1,202 Thanks: 134 Thanked 138 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FFS! TU is only lighter than NA when is makes 200 PS/L. However, the more power you want the get from a TU engine, the more you need to add weight. To get more power from a NA engine, on the contrary the engine gets lighter. BMW N54 TT 3.0l I6 306 PS @ 5.800 RPM 400 Nm @ 1.300-5.000 RPM Redline @ 7.000 RPM 195 kg BMW N62 NA 4.0l V8 306 PS @ 6.300 RPM 390 Nm @ 3.500 RPM Redline @ 6.500 RPM 265 kg BMW S65 NA 4.0l V8 420 PS @ 8.300 RPM 400 Nm @ 3.900 RPM Redline @ 8.400 RPM 202 kg I think I do not need to add any words, the numbers speek for themselves. Also, the FI McLAren MP4-12C still did not outperform the NA Ferrari 458 Italia!