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Old 07-02-2013, 11:59 AM   #57
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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 View Post
Not really, we use both, Ecutek is well aware of it and understands that it is a buyers market.

We have customers who want the lower cost version of the files, with out the extras like the Race Rom patch, but there are far more that like the extras like the map switching.

One thing you need to think about; Race Rom is not just a simple add on with extra maps and such, there are some very significant code patches that allow the software to do things that BRZedit can't, such as log extra parameters.

Also, you mention editing on your own after the tuner has done your car with BRZedit; unless your tuner gives you the ROM and allows it to be editable from the personal edition, you will not be able to simply edit what he/she have installed.

Now, the question is how many of these do we sell vs the EcuTek? Well since we sell our EcuTek file(stock,91oct,93 oct and e85) for 399.99 with free lifetime upgrades, and we sell the BRZedit files for 300.00, with the same free updates(you have too buy a cable), not too many. Most folks want to added coolness of the RR map switching.
All good points, but here is where i am with it all.

I already have BRZedit personal, because i can tune my own cars and I wanted to get very familiar with the platform. I already had an OP2 cable from my evo days.

Now, if i want to buy the innovate twinscrew, i would like to be able to buy a base map from a tuner that i can edit and fine tune on my own. I simply don't need a tuner to do that for me, i would rather do it myself on the dyno. But I am happy to pay 300 for a start up calibration that will let me drive safely (and of course tenderly) to the dyno to do my own custom tune.

If you don't care about tuning your own car and want to do a remote flash you can either buy ecutek (cable, license, and tune) or BRZedit (slave version, op2 cable, tune).

I don't know what ecutek cables cost or licenses. I know OP2 can be had new for $169.00. BRZedit slave is $200. the Tune will cost about the same as ecutek... so, if you don't care about racerom (brzedit is adding some of these features) it is probably a coulpe hundred less to go with brzedit.

OR if you just want a dyno tune you can just go get protuned on BRZedit and just pay for the tune, no cable or license or software. With Ecutek, you still have to buy the license.

Also, as mentioned before, BRZedit allows a lower entry point price to tuners. If you have a local subbie tunner you known an love, they only need to tune 3 cars to get their investment cost covered, while with ecutek it is more like 10 cars.. so in an area with a low number of twins.....
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