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Old 12-24-2011, 11:40 AM   #27
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WTF! For those wanting a turbo just wait for the new WRX. Modded it'll be as fast as an Aventador (till 280 km/h), it also has AWD. The BRZ is just the first step before being able to control a Dirft Ford Mustang or a Grip Porsche 911.

WRX also has 2 more doors, lots more space, higher CoG, but the most important fact to me isn't that it IS AWD, but that it ISN'T RWD. Not to mention it weighs a lot more. You've made similar statements before, and while I'm not trying to be insulting here, it seems you just don't get the point that those in the pro-turbo crowd are trying to make.

The FRS/BRZ that I buy will never out accelerate my 71 Chevelle, and in all likelihood won't even out accelerate my S14 (which weighs about the same at this point, 2850 w/ me and 3/4 tank of gas). It probably won't slide better than my S14, or with a few minor suspension tweaks, out handle it. It is however newer, more reliable, and in general nicer all around than either of those cars. If a turbo model was made, would I take it over the N/A, probably. Of course cost is a factor there, but to be honest everybody is saying 200hp/151ftlb is enough. They're right, it is enough, for now. Eventually most enthusiasts end up wanting more out of the car. Whether it be relatively cost inefficient N/A route, FI route, car diet route (always a good idea IMO), or some combination thereof.


Does EVERYONE want more power, no, some people will leave theirs completely stock, there's nothing wrong with that. Some people will just do suspension work, tires, etc. Most of us I think will do a mix of several things I'd wager.


I guess the point I'm trying to make is that if a factory Turbo version is available it will sell like hotcakes. It will probably be more powerful and faster in stock trim than a cam'd, ITB'd, full exhaust N/A car. It will probably have much more potential for higher power levels with less money. Of course every part of that is a trade off in either reliability or fuel efficiency, but once you start modding your NA car for more power, you're going to run into the same issues, at a higher cost, for lesser gains.

Does more power mean it's better, no, not one bit. It would be different, the dynamic of the car would change and tuning strategies would change around that new dynamic.


The real moral of the story is WRX =/= Turbo AS1, so stop acting like it does.
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