[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by Frost

That is in all ways, the anti-Christ for a better society.

Just because it is the standard (which I agree it is) - it doesn't mean it's not wrong. If society continues with that logic, then: a) slavery is still ok b) women should not be allowed to vote or have any say c) my club is bigger than yours so I win this arguement.

See? Standards change (hopefully they always rise) and JD Power "Initial Quality" standard is a farce.

It also doesn't take into consideration that a person buying a Porsche versus your everyday Joe buying a Kia has different views of "problems" or "issues". Eg: the Porsche guy claims his seats are a little "off" versus the Kia man saying his seat bottom fell through are very different issues.

I like stats but stats can and often are skewed without transparency.

Eg: If I built 1000 engines last year (all the same identical) and only 1 was a lemon, I have a 0.1% failure rate. So the next year I build more engines, say 2000 engines but have 3 lemons - thus a 0.15% failure rate, my failure rate has now jumped FIFTY PERCENT!!! OMG! TERRIBLE! NEVER BUY ENGINES FROM THIS GUY AGAIN! Or you could also say my lemon yield TRIPLED!

This is why I always pause at numbers. Numbers demand scrutiny and the masses can be brainwashed. Those of us who do understand this need to be on guard for this smoke and mirrors act.

You know that Porsche suffers in this survey because people complain about brake dust on their wheels. The brake dust gets all over the wheels because Porsches come with high performance pads. So that's a dumb reason to get knocked on the survey.

It happens to all makers, in some way or another, because most consumers are stupid.