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Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 10:21 PM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
100% agreed.:happy0180:

100% agreed.:happy0180:
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 10:17 PM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
For whatever reasons, I find lonewolf's...

For whatever reasons, I find lonewolf's information from his "birdie" very credible. I think that's a very predictable compromise. Definitely, not anything that I would be "pleasantly surprised"...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 02:40 PM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
I think that's a very reasonable opinion. As you...

I think that's a very reasonable opinion. As you said, let's wait for the Toyota guys to come out with the prices.
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 02:27 PM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
OK, so let me start. Again, keep in mind I said...

OK, so let me start. Again, keep in mind I said "VERY UNLIKELY" as it does not go along with the conventional wisdom.

I do not have ANY positive evidence that Subaru wants really to make this a...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 02:13 PM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
Before I answer your question, let me ask you...

Before I answer your question, let me ask you this question first. Do you believe that this will in fact generte its own market and sell in a large volume? By the way, Toyota is the largest...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 01:58 PM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
Because they are playing with the controlling...

Because they are playing with the controlling stakeholder. And that is not a fact, ONLY my guess.
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 01:54 PM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
Dave, first read that I stated "VERY UNLIKELY"....

Dave, first read that I stated "VERY UNLIKELY". So, don't jump on what I wrote. Second, even in that scenario, Subaru would be OK as a manufacturer as it makes cars for Toyota/Scion, so that cost...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 01:36 PM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
Do you know as a fact that Subaru was a willing...

Do you know as a fact that Subaru was a willing participant in this from the beginning? If so, I would agree with you. If not, your guess is ONLY as good as mine. By the way, your guess that you are...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 01:32 PM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
Longhorn248, you are in the minority as are the...

Longhorn248, you are in the minority as are the people go crazy about performance of cars. My question is what benefits this car would really bring to Subaru and my guess is probably not much. If...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 12:19 PM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
transformerz, the real question I have is "does...

transformerz, the real question I have is "does Subaru really want to sell this car?". I do not know. As you (and many others) point out, Scion cannot be priced too much lower than BRZ, so if BRZ is...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 11:49 AM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
I already apologized that my first post was not...

I already apologized that my first post was not clear in my first response to you and clarified multiple times, so this will be the last time. I do not care if you do not udnerstand after this.
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Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 11:39 AM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
I totally agree with you and have never said it...

I totally agree with you and have never said it will, so please stop quoting me. I NEVER said Subaru will be 5 - 6 K more expensive than Scion. So, STOP quoting me. I do not know what you do not...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 11:26 AM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
It is what I wrote in the previous post. I NEVER...

It is what I wrote in the previous post. I NEVER said anything about difference between BRZ and FR-S. Do you find any words "between BRZ and FR-S" after "difference" in my previous post? You don't. I...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 11:07 AM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
Sorry, I was not clear. I was not talking about...

Sorry, I was not clear. I was not talking about the price difference between BRZ and FR-S. I was talking about the price of each model and each trim. The lower end of BRZ Premium can be $23K...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 10:34 AM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
There are quite a few pieces of this puzzle. ...

There are quite a few pieces of this puzzle.

1. What the Toyota CEO wants to do
2. Whether or not Toyota will go about this business as usual (i.e. maximizing profits, squeezing us till the...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-18-2011, 09:18 AM
Replies: 359
Views: 74,204
Posted By FX-GT
$23K for BRZ Premium (can delete the navi and 16...

$23K for BRZ Premium (can delete the navi and 16 wheels are fine for this price)
$21K for FR-S (again, 16 wheels are fine)

The thretshold for me is $22K for FR-S. $24K for BRZ is already above...
Forum: BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 12-15-2011, 01:40 PM
Replies: 235
Views: 37,317
Posted By FX-GT
Is that your opinion or a fact based on your...

Is that your opinion or a fact based on your experience/knowledge?
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-15-2011, 01:38 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 22,887
Posted By FX-GT
Funny thing. In Japan, people are going crazy...

Funny thing. In Japan, people are going crazy about not getting FR-S and instead getting just 86. Heck, some of them are saying Toyota should sell FR-S under Lexus brand. Selling a Scion product...
Forum: BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 12-15-2011, 12:54 PM
Replies: 235
Views: 37,317
Posted By FX-GT
So, let me ask the question of the title of this...

So, let me ask the question of the title of this thread in a different way. Do people think the prices have been already finalized? Or do you think Toyota is still "optimizing" the prices?
Forum: BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 12-15-2011, 12:22 PM
Replies: 235
Views: 37,317
Posted By FX-GT
What would be the price cut off for you guys? 24K...

What would be the price cut off for you guys? 24K BRZ Premium is already above my threshold. I would be happy to have a Scion version for 22K with all the same goodies except for nav, push button...
Forum: BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 12-12-2011, 02:11 PM
Replies: 264
Views: 54,964
Posted By FX-GT
And economy sets people's expectations and what...

And economy sets people's expectations and what they can pay.
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-12-2011, 01:56 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 30,417
Posted By FX-GT
It all depends on the price. It will sell better...

It all depends on the price. It will sell better in the US than in Japan for sure, but price is the key.
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-08-2011, 08:42 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 57,686
Posted By FX-GT
We can talk how the price is ridiculous and shit...

We can talk how the price is ridiculous and shit all we want, but at the end of the day, Toyota will do what it wants to do. That being said, I think $24.5 for base Scion is not on par with other...
Forum: BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 12-08-2011, 05:59 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 12,541
Posted By FX-GT
What do people think the FR-s base price and what...

What do people think the FR-s base price and what will come with it?
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-08-2011, 10:36 AM
Replies: 75
Views: 14,806
Posted By FX-GT
Did they share any pricing information? Even a...

Did they share any pricing information? Even a ballpark number?
Forum: BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 12-07-2011, 08:55 AM
Replies: 69
Views: 26,439
Posted By FX-GT
The chief engineering guy is talking about...

The chief engineering guy is talking about everything from Supra to 85.
Forum: BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 12-06-2011, 12:06 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 26,439
Posted By FX-GT
I'm afraid that you are right. The best case...

I'm afraid that you are right. The best case scenario is right inbetween his number and the price estimated by edumunds (24,600 or so). That would be without a nav (not that I need one). I am...
Forum: BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 12-06-2011, 10:49 AM
Replies: 69
Views: 26,439
Posted By FX-GT
Really, is Ed Loh's information credible? The...

Really, is Ed Loh's information credible? The pricing information seems to be so tightly protected across the world. Why on earth, would Subaru share such information just with him? But at the same...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12-05-2011, 11:55 PM
Replies: 95
Views: 17,070
Posted By FX-GT
I'd say BRZ, but it all depends on the price....

I'd say BRZ, but it all depends on the price. Only difference is wheels (aluminum vs. steel) and nav and Scion still comes 1,500 under, I will go for Scion. My image of Scion is that the direct...
Forum: BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 12-05-2011, 11:20 PM
Replies: 323
Views: 110,300
Posted By FX-GT
Is Ed Loh's information considered credible? I...

Is Ed Loh's information considered credible? I hope there is a deselect option for the nav. I have a feeling that Scion will try to find every opportunity to keep the base price lower. Whatever they...
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