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hmong337 01-13-2016 02:03 AM

Lexus LC500 vs Lexus RC-F...?
 
I don't get it. Didn't they just release the RC model lineup? But here we are with the release of the LC500. How the heck does that add up? Two new Lexus coupes within a year of each other. So did the RC get axed? I'm scratchin' my head at this one...

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k6-3UoUhJ8"]Inside the All-New Lexus LC 500! - Motor Trend Presents - YouTube[/ame]

serialk11r 01-13-2016 02:25 AM

Kind of strange that they had the RC-F project going when this was in the works yea.

I have a very very strong preference for the short nose long tail mid engine car look, and I'm not a huge fan of the 2UR-GSE but holy shit this car is beautiful, like James Bond Sceptre Aston Martin DB10 beautiful. One day if I am trying to decide on a garage queen and it comes down to a used Aston Martin or a used one of these...I'd honestly have a hard time saying no to this.

KR-S 01-13-2016 02:40 AM

So what I got from the video is that the LC 500 will compete with cars like the BMW 6-series. That suggests that they might somehow coexist even if they share the same 2UR-GSE engine. Hell, the LC 500 might be even more focused for comfort than speed, which would explain why it is not called the LC F despite having an F engine.

Alternatively, I don't think the RC will get axed entirely, though the F version might be. I imagine that an LC F, if the LC 500 isn't already considered to be part of the F lineup, will focus on handling and add a little more power to the 2UR-GSE.

swarb 01-13-2016 02:48 AM

RCF vs M4
LC500 vs 6 series

dat 10 speed doe...

serialk11r 01-13-2016 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KR-S 86 (Post 2507428)
Hell, the LC 500 might be even more focused for comfort than speed, which would explain why it is not called the LC F despite having an F engine.

From the video, it seems like it's meant to be somewhat comfortable, for sure there's probably room to stiffen it up.

One thing to note about the engine is that the UR series all share the 94mm bore of the GR engines and just vary in stroke. At 89mm the stroke is pretty long already, and the bore spacing is pretty tight.

A possibility for higher power could be a supercharged 4.6L that revs higher, just random speculation. Or maybe just a supercharger bolted to the 5.0L.

The issue is that the UR engines stop making much power at high rpm so there isn't much of a point.

KR-S 01-13-2016 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 2507441)
A possibility for higher power could be a supercharged 4.6L that revs higher, just random speculation. Or maybe just a supercharger bolted to the 5.0L.

The issue is that the UR engines stop making much power at high rpm so there isn't much of a point.

Hmm, well I can't really see Lexus deciding to shoehorn a potential 2UR-GZS into an LC F as supercharging isn't the norm with them. They've only now started playing with turbos, but that's only on the inline 4s. Still, it is Toyota we are talking about here, so they could shock everyone and introduce an LC F with a turbo V8. That'd be a dream, and it would open up the path for a new Supra as well.

What I was initially thinking, though, is that they could somehow extract more power NA.

gymratter 01-13-2016 11:52 AM

The LC takes on the 6 series & S class coupe.

RC/RC-F compete with 4 series/M4 and C/C AMG.

Its all been talked about in the official thread...

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2848

Mr.Impreza 01-13-2016 02:49 PM

Ooh, i like the looks of this one better than the RC-F...looks slimmer

jdmblood 01-13-2016 03:49 PM

The RCF will be faster then an LC500.
The LC500 will be more luxurious and more expensive then the RCF

hmong337 01-13-2016 03:57 PM

Interesting. I didn't think Lexus would have the balls to get into the executive luxury coupe market. Hell, they building the RC was a surprise to me.

gymratter 01-13-2016 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmong337 (Post 2508158)
Interesting. I didn't think Lexus would have the balls to get into the executive luxury coupe market. Hell, they building the RC was a surprise to me.

They did it once.

http://zombdrive.com/images/1992-lexus-sc-400-5.jpg

hmong337 01-13-2016 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratter (Post 2508182)

Actually, the successor to the SC is the RC. Now as for the LC, that's another ball game.

jaorocks1 01-13-2016 07:41 PM

Does it use the RCF engine?

KR-S 01-13-2016 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaorocks1 (Post 2508434)
Does it use the RCF engine?

It is stated by Randy Pobst in the video that it indeed uses the RC F 2UR-GSE engine.


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