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RichardsFRS 01-12-2016 08:34 PM

Why does my car have green topped valve covers?
 
Someone at toyota said it was because they put nitrogen in the tires? Wife's car has them too. I think they are ugly. I'm gona get some nice chrome ones

TruRace 01-12-2016 08:40 PM

It's to designate that there is nitrogen in the tires. So you or whoever is filling up the tires doesn't mix it with air.

mav1178 01-12-2016 08:41 PM

Valve stem cap.

Valve covers = what's over the cylinder head in the engine bay.

-alex

Tcoat 01-12-2016 08:49 PM

And if they do mix air with it don't panic. It just means you have air mixed with the nitrogen and that has zero effect since air is 78% nitrogen anyway. Nitrogen filled tires are a huge rip off.
Now if they would fill them with helium and make the car lighter.
For god sake do not fill them with hydrogen though.

mdm 01-12-2016 08:52 PM

[OT] Tcoat, I'd like to thank you for your post but being a forum newbie I have no idea how to do it. Is there a button or link I am not noticing. Or is it because newbies are not allowed to thank? Help! ;-) [/OT]

mav1178 01-12-2016 08:54 PM

About the only good thing that filling it with nitrogen does, is that it is usually with zero moisture.

This ensures the least amount of tire pressure change as temperatures change.

-alex

FRSBRZGT86FAN 01-12-2016 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2507090)
Valve stem cap.

Valve covers = what's over the cylinder head in the engine bay.

-alex


I'm not even sure you can see our valve covers in our engine bays :lol:

FRSBRZGT86FAN 01-12-2016 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2507104)
About the only good thing that filling it with nitrogen does, is that it is usually with zero moisture.

This ensures the least amount of tire pressure change as temperatures change.

-alex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2507100)
And if they do mix air with it don't panic. It just means you have air mixed with the nitrogen and that has zero effect since air is 78% nitrogen anyway. Nitrogen filled tires are a huge rip off.
Now if they would fill them with helium and make the car lighter.
For god sake do not fill them with hydrogen though.

@mav1178 has it right, nitrogen makes a difference when the tires are at temperature swings, nitrogen doesn't readily get effected by temperatures. In fact nissan made a big deal when the GT-R came out about how they filled the tires with pure nitrogen because normal air was too "unstable". It would probably only ever make a difference in that situation because they are constantly recording data on the nurburgring trying to aim for consistency with variables and such.

bcj 01-12-2016 09:14 PM

Nitrogen is affected exactly like any other noble gas by temperature. It will expand and contract.

H20 molecular bonds in the tire can be broken by temperature changes.
Then the individual 0 and H molecules take up more space than they did before.

Won't matter in the slightest on the road. Track bench racing appellation.

mdm 01-12-2016 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcj (Post 2507126)
Nitrogen is affected exactly like any other noble gas by temperature. It will expand and contract.

Nitrogen is not a noble gas. But you're right it will expand and contract with temperature changes. Like any gas.

Ashikabi 01-12-2016 09:24 PM

Nitrogen will expand and contract... however, not to the degree of plain old air. So for example during an autocross session, you start when it's cooler out and after a few runs your tires are hot and when you finish later in the day when it's even hotter your tires will go up several PSI. Nitrogen will only go up a few PSI. I'm not good enough to worry about tire pressures yet but all the better drivers are constantly fiddling with theirs

bcj 01-12-2016 09:26 PM

Derp. True.
Tires are still permeable though. Nitrogen leaks out at a slower rate than smaller atoms.
Helium will leak faster. Hydrogen would fall out faster than anything.
Oxygen would leak out slower than Nitrogen, but if you had a bag full of Oxygen in a crash, you may have a bad day.

roddy 01-12-2016 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdm (Post 2507102)
[OT] Tcoat, I'd like to thank you for your post but being a forum newbie I have no idea how to do it. Is there a button or link I am not noticing. Or is it because newbies are not allowed to thank? Help! ;-) [/OT]



There is a minimum number of posts before you can thank...IIRC, it's 10.

Tcoat 01-12-2016 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcj (Post 2507136)
Derp. True.
Tires are still permeable though. Nitrogen leaks out at a slower rate than smaller atoms.
Helium will leak faster. Hydrogen would fall out faster than anything.
Oxygen would leak out slower than Nitrogen, but if you had a bag full of Oxygen in a crash, you may have a bad day.

You do realize I was joking about the other gases? Hydrogen in you tires would be a bad bad bad idea.


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