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Jeremiahlee34 01-06-2016 11:09 PM

Innovate Stage 2, Race to 300WHP w/o E85
 
So my question is what is the best/most efficient way to hit 270-300whp on my FRS without e85.

(I live in Maine and E85 is extinct here, lol)


My set up: 2013 FRS
Innovate stage 2 sprintex 210 supercharger (stock injectors and fuel pump though)
Stock headers
J2 quad catback exhaust (I have the catless downpipe but haven't installed)
Perrin CAI
Dual Radium catch cans


Any tune suggestions/what other upgrades should be done to hit 270-300whp?

I am very new to tuning so forgive my ignorance.

s2d4 01-06-2016 11:11 PM

Race gas

bfrank1972 01-06-2016 11:39 PM

Call Mike at Moto East, depending on where you are, he might be a drive away. Master tuner with good experience with these blowers. You'll probably need a good set of headers too, there's a few for sale right now on the forum if you want to economize.

Jeremiahlee34 01-07-2016 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfrank1972 (Post 2500718)
Call Mike at Moto East, depending on where you are, he might be a drive away. Master tuner with good experience with these blowers. You'll probably need a good set of headers too, there's a few for sale right now on the forum if you want to economize.

Thank you !

D_Thissen 01-07-2016 12:24 AM

Ditching that OEM header and replacing it with a catless one, should help free up some ponies.

Toyota86.ir 01-07-2016 12:27 AM

Header has major role .
Mike tuned both 210 and 335 sprintex.
You can call him about upgrading to 335

Rifle 01-07-2016 02:19 AM

Just for reference, I'm dyno-tuned by Mike.

Sprintex 210, w/ 69mm pulley, on 93 octane. Full Catless Exhaust, UEL.
Can't really add much more timing on regular gas. Even with e85, Mike has told me it'll reliably make 290-295. Water Meth should put it about 275ish.

https://i.imgur.com/uYRGh6L.jpg
@moto-mike tagged since you've been requested.

Dream20b 01-07-2016 10:16 AM

think about custom SC cams

bfrank1972 01-07-2016 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rifle (Post 2500829)
Just for reference, I'm dyno-tuned by Mike.

Sprintex 210, w/ 69mm pulley, on 93 octane. Full Catless Exhaust, UEL.
Can't really add much more timing on regular gas. Even with e85, Mike has told me it'll reliably make 290-295. Water Meth should put it about 275ish.

https://i.imgur.com/uYRGh6L.jpg
@moto-mike tagged since you've been requested.

Interesting, I thought somewhere I saw someone had over 270whp on pump gas, but I might be smoking crack too. Either way I think Mike is a good bet for maximizing what you have.


Edit: I think it was crack, or E85 rather :) sorry

Jeremiahlee34 01-07-2016 11:41 AM

@Rifle @bfrank1972 thank you guys, very insightful.

I sent Moto Mike a messege. I think I will probably get some new headers soon as well.

Any recommendations for headers that will add to the car prof ordnance wise but not tooo too loud? Or could I just add a resonator to counter act it?

Rifle 01-07-2016 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremiahlee34 (Post 2501058)
@Rifle @bfrank1972 thank you guys, very insightful.

I sent Moto Mike a messege. I think I will probably get some new headers soon as well.

Any recommendations for headers that will add to the car prof ordnance wise but not tooo too loud? Or could I just add a resonator to counter act it?

With the J2, you're going to be stupid loud with a header, no matter how many resonators you add.

I would recommend an EL header for FI application/performance gains. It's what I've switched to now. Tomei EL is what I'm using.

Jeremiahlee34 01-07-2016 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rifle (Post 2501111)
With the J2, you're going to be stupid loud with a header, no matter how many resonators you add.

I would recommend an EL header for FI application/performance gains. It's what I've switched to now. Tomei EL is what I'm using.



Thank you. That's unfortunate about being stupid loud lol.

Do you use a catless header? Also is a UEL louder then EL?


I have been talking with Moto Mike and he thinks my best option to hit 270whp ish is WMI with some new headers and smaller pulley

Rifle 01-07-2016 08:11 PM

I wouldn't say that they're anymore loud than each other. The air is more free flowing in an EL and thus has the performance gains. W/M and a 69mm pulley. Call it a day.

Jeremiahlee34 01-08-2016 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rifle (Post 2501870)
I wouldn't say that they're anymore loud than each other. The air is more free flowing in an EL and thus has the performance gains. W/M and a 69mm pulley. Call it a day.


I see. makes sense. Ordered a 69mm pulley today! Probably will get W/M and new headers in the next few months.

Any supporting mods needed for the W/M or 69mm pulley?

and last question, what WM kit / Headers would you recommend? for maximum power gains


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