What's the most reliable turbo for DD
 

Ok wassup guys, I've been thinking about putting a turbo in my 2013 Frs but I'm just not sure if I want to yet because this is a daily driven car. If I decide to go with it I want to know what turbo kit I can rely on. Yes I have also factored in all the supporting mods, cost of labor, etc. I've also read a lot of stuff on the SC being a lot more reliable but I just don't really see my self leaning that way. Thanks for the help!

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Reliable and turboing a car don't really go hand in hand

Why do you want a turbo for daily driving? Do you need to make it to the next stop light 4 seconds faster, instead of only 1 second faster by flooring it? Or do you want to make all the bitches sopping wet when they hear your car go "Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaah pew pew psh bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah pew pew psh"?

Do you go to the track? If so, are your lap times being hindered because you've mastered the handling on the car and you just can't go fast enough?

All of them are if you have money ;)

Why don't you really see yourself leaning toward supercharging? :iono:

What is the purpose of a reply like this?
This in no way shape or form helps anyone.
What if says yes to one of your reasons he may want to? Would you actually provide any useful information?
Sucks for new people to come here and get treated like idiots. You were new at one point too. </rant>


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Of course I'd be as helpful as I could be. Though, with a question that's basically "wats da best turbz for a dally driva?" It doesn't give much details to go on, and how can I possibly help if I don't know someone's goals?

Like if I asked "what car should I get to drive every day?" Someone would say a Miata, someone would say a civic and someone would say an exotic hypercar. No budget was listed, no driving style was even hinted at. I was new at one point, and I made a stupid thread that had been made multiple times before. Someone let me know that and told me I should search. Since then, I read everything I possibly can when I have a question I need answered. 9.9 times out of 10, I get my answer from reading existing threads and don't need to make a thread asking.

But hey, I get that critical thinking and problem solving isn't a very common skill anymore. Kind of like common sense being a very rare commodity now.

Turbo=low end torque. That's what people love. Low end torque=/=reliability. Snapped rods are in your future with a stock bottom end. Unless you want to run low boost. But even then a PD Blower will be more reliable and give you what you want.

There are stupid questions.

When a kid wants M&M's for dinner some parents give him the M&M's, upset stomach kid never wants M&M's again. Some parents tell the kid it's being dumb and no so they don't have to deal with the kid with the upset stomach.

Blown engines hurt more than a tummy ache.

The real trick is to figure out cake for breakfast ;)

Sorry everyone else, but I second this notion 100%. NA stock daily not only does not need a turbo, but there is no option for "reliable daily" when specifically compared to stock form.

... no

Eat it with milk. Problem solved. Also, have Black Forest cake for breakfast since there are cherries (fruit) so you can really justify it as a fruit salad

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Oh, fucking hell.

I advise you to just listen to Cole the Troll.

The fact that you responded within 4 minutes and Guff liked it, means someone didnt read the rules about how to use a search function ;)

Well now. Based on the fact that:


OP's first ever (and to this point ,only) post is "what is best turbo"
The initial post is so vague yet claims to have done research
The SC is dismissed as an option right off the bat
There is no info about goals, budget or experience
The OP posted this and ended all other forum activity in the exact same minute


I am willing to bet this will be an interesting ride.

It is even better because it was originally in the General section and within 5 minutes of thanking it Guff had moved it to where it belongs. That means the rule about posting in the appropriate section was not know either.


Now, in fairness to the OP (I have resolved to be more forgiving) the rules are not exactly slapping you in the face when you join.


But geeeze people, read through the place and check out the different categories before posting. At very least hang out and chat for a couple of days before jumping in with "Best turbo please".

That new years resolution will be done before the end of the week, i want my old tcoat Back :( lol.

They should code it so when you click on new topic itll ask if you read the rules or not...

Oh don't worry the forgiveness shall only go so far.

Too soon bro.

It's never too soon in the land of the Internetz

Everything I read, doesn't show these cars as good candidates for fi without upgrades. You'll just blow it up if you don't build it up.

That would be a fantastic idea for the classifieds. Not sure how many times I've seen "Please follow the member classified rules (rule #2) or I'll delete the thread"

Sorry for thread jack

OP made thread, logged out immediately after (the same minute) and has never logged on again. Odds are that you are safe to jack at this point.


Imagine how ichi feels about all those classified thread!


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If a serious question was asked then it would be common decency to check for replies. I get that everybody doesn't have time to be here as much as some of us but if asking for advice at least be prepared to respond to questions in a reasonable period.


If not serious question then why ask?


If was a troll attempt to get a nice turbo debate going then it failed miserably.

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Hitler was a decent painter.

Not the case at all. Very few actually know what theyre doing when they tune it, and most of the blown up cars (even cars with trouble-threads) show logs from tunes that are just absolute crap.

I really don't get this kind question by now? >__>

I mean I thought all turboos are reliable as F, it's the engine that give away.

:slap: awww

Thanks
 

The way some of you responded was pretty immature. With that said reading it over even the obnoxious answers helped. I decided I won't turbo the car. I don't have the money for tunes and just maintaining everything. So till I have the funds I'm not going to half fast everything. Thank you guys!

Welcome back!
The very fact you replied moved you up several notches in the credibility ratings. Please understand that we see a pile of one off posts that are only intended to stir up shit so when you ask a question then disappear for a long period you get thrown into that category. Unfair maybe, but it is the reality of things.
If you hang around I think you will find that we really are not that bad and can actually be very helpful.

I guess after three years I should check mine for damage? When exactly will mine "blow up"?


Don't believe everything you read. It's the TUNER that makes the difference.

The safest turbo will be one where the power delivery is at the higher RPM range as it will put less stress on the drive train. I think they call it a centrifugal supercharger. LOL

What he said ^

Don't take it personally, we're all just a bit jaded from past experiences on these forums haha.

But good choice, FI isn't something you want to get into unless you're mentally, emotionally, and financially ready to handle all problems that may arise lol.

Or a mechanical or system failure with the turbo itself especially if not installed properly or serous corner cutting goes on. But that can happen with anything in the engine even NA and isn't really the turbo's fault.


I think a lot of the "turbo will blow your engine" statements came about the same way as all the "all dealers will screw you" or "dealer techs all are morons" statements do. Since all that ever gets told are the horror stories of a small minority while the bulk of the people that never have an issue remain silent. This creates a false perception of what the reality is.


Now all that said, installing a turbo can reduce the reliability of the car but so can putting on different springs, changing the headlights to aftermarket, doing a tune on the stock engine and anything else that changes the vehicle from it's original design specs. There is nothing saying any mods will lower the reliability but they all could lower it.

Tcoat. You put things somewhat in perspective
However, it sounds as if you believe that any mod, other than original design specs, will reduce reliability. Please tell me otherwise.

Not at all. My car is modded and so far has been as reliable as hell. Two of my Lancers were heavily modded and never had an issue with either in 250K miles each.
As I tried to stress changing anything from designed specs can increase the risk of problems (you can have problems stock as well so there is always risk) but that does not mean you will have problems just that the risk is greater. People here have blown BCUs with a simple LED light in the license plate while others have run 16 pounds of boost on an otherwise stock engine and never had a hiccup.

To take it out of the car realm which leaves things open for people to say "but I did XXX and it was fine" but illustrate what I am saying:


Say you have jumping platform that is designed to be 1 foot high.
You can jump off that all day long and the risk of breaking your leg is pretty minimal but, you still could break your leg.
Move that platform up to two feet and the risk of breaking your leg increases but it does not mean you are going to break it, just the risk of doing so is greater.
Move it up to five feet and you are starting to push your luck but you could still possibly jump all day without an issue. Or, because the original design was what was deemed the best for the purpose you may break your leg on the first jump.That was the chance you took by changing from the original design.

As long as people fully understand the level of risk and are willing to accept it then all is good.

This ^^^

Want reliable low end tq? V8 swap. I'm doing it to my DD because I drive like an asshat. Also I track my car and burn through lots of rubber at mineral wella spending more of my time sideways then going straight. I know this post doesn't help this thread but it seems like none of the other posts help either. In b4 lock

Agreed!
100%
(My knees hurt listening to your logic)

Anyone who doesn't understand this risk or does not have the funding to replace his entire car once going to FI is foolish.

LOL It makes your knees hurt? How bizarre.

There are loads of helpful posts here you just have to actually read through it all to find them.