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IgamaS 12-10-2015 10:30 PM

HID questions
 
Hey I know there's probably other post that have answer to my questions but I'm just switching over from led headlights to HID headlights. With that I bought a pair of morimotos hd 6k with 50 watt ballest with stand alone can bus. I though it would be okay using this set up cause I didn't want to use a HD relay.

Can you use stand alone canbus for HID headlights or what? For when I tried to set up mine, it wouldn't work at all. So if that's the case are only HD relays the way to go?

starscream1201 12-10-2015 10:44 PM

Factory housings? I just bought my set through my work and had zero issues.


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soulreapersteve 12-11-2015 01:58 AM

I completed the install (2nd time) of the Diode Dynamics kit for my car today. Not using a relay and it works perfectly fine.

Now don't quote me on this statement, but I think 50w ballast might be too much for our cars. Most people I've seen here and in person use 35w ballast. Perhaps the car is sensing that its drawing too much power and preventing the lights from turning on. Again, please don't quote me.. lol

I'm looking on theretrofitsource for the FRS and its showing 35w ballast option only for the Morimoto full retrofit kit.

starscream1201 12-11-2015 02:21 AM

Also don't need canbus on the frs. 35watt non canbus ballasts and no issues.


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Akari 12-11-2015 02:55 PM

Can anyone who has put HIDs in these take a picture of the cutoff line against a wall? I'm curious if they come out near what factory is or have a horrible light pattern.

IgamaS 12-14-2015 07:57 PM

Hey guys quick question to HID lighting my 6k bulbs with 50 watt ballasts is showing like its 4K with a yellow hue. Is that normal as it takes time for the HID to burn in or am I wrong?

Andrew025 12-15-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by IgamaS (Post 2480670)
Hey guys quick question to HID lighting my 6k bulbs with 50 watt ballasts is showing like its 4K with a yellow hue. Is that normal as it takes time for the HID to burn in or am I wrong?

With a higher wattage ballast, the color will general drop to the lower kelvin colors a little bit.
I wouldn't imagine a 6000k being colored like a 4000k though.

go_a_way1 12-15-2015 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 2481352)
With a higher wattage ballast, the color will general drop to the lower kelvin colors a little bit.
I wouldn't imagine a 6000k being colored like a 4000k though.

I have 7k or 8k ish and a 55W ballast if I remeber right and it is pure white, also so dam bright that I try not to use them when I dont have to.

IgamaS 12-28-2015 04:16 AM

Okay though the retro style rep stated that it would take a couple of weeks for the true color to kick in. Is that true?

chamourian 12-28-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2481380)
I have 7k or 8k ish and a 55W ballast if I remeber right and it is pure white, also so dam bright that I try not to use them when I dont have to.

8k is like purple... 5-6k is pure white. That would be crazy if a high power ballast would change it that much.

go_a_way1 12-28-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by chamourian (Post 2492273)
8k is like purple... 5-6k is pure white. That would be crazy if a high power ballast would change it that much.

Yeah I was told to go a temp range up so I did and I could not be happier. I think it was 7K on 35W so it is like 6K on 55W :iono: I don't know to much about this stuff to be honest haha

Premium 615 12-28-2015 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by IgamaS (Post 2480670)
Hey guys quick question to HID lighting my 6k bulbs with 50 watt ballasts is showing like its 4K with a yellow hue. Is that normal as it takes time for the HID to burn in or am I wrong?

This is normal. The increased ballast power (35w to 50w) will cause the bulb to look more yellowish.

Edit: My bad didnt read all the comments already...:slap:

Premium 615 12-28-2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IgamaS (Post 2492159)
Okay though the retro style rep stated that it would take a couple of weeks for the true color to kick in. Is that true?

OEM bulbs like Philips, Osrams will "color-shift" to a more brighter white at or around 200 hours of run time on the bulbs. So a 4300K bulb will end up being around 4700K - 5000K.

I am not 100% sure if aftermarket bulbs like the Morimotos will do the same, I believe they don't color-shift.

IgamaS 01-04-2016 02:04 AM

Question for everyone, what HID set up do you use?

Premium 615 01-04-2016 02:24 PM

No mods to my lighting as of yet... still have the OEM HID in my BRZ.

D4S bulbs and 35w ballasts

ZOMFGAARON 01-04-2016 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AKUSHOU (Post 2492293)
OEM bulbs like Philips, Osrams will "color-shift" to a more brighter white at or around 200 hours of run time on the bulbs. So a 4300K bulb will end up being around 4700K - 5000K.

I am not 100% sure if aftermarket bulbs like the Morimotos will do the same, I believe they don't color-shift.


Morimotos do color shift.
I currently have a set they shifted around 60 hours.




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Mysta316 01-10-2016 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AKUSHOU (Post 2492288)
This is normal. The increased ballast power (35w to 50w) will cause the bulb to look more yellowish.

Edit: My bad didnt read all the comments already...:slap:

I have 55w 6k HID's they are not yellow at all.
http://i.imgur.com/ZjcvbeM.jpg

Premium 615 01-11-2016 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysta316 (Post 2504855)
I have 55w 6k HID's they are not yellow at all.
http://i.imgur.com/ZjcvbeM.jpg


I'm not saying your light is going to be fog light yellow. But your 6k bulbs will look more blue if they were ran on 35w rather than the 55w.

IgamaS 01-11-2016 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysta316 (Post 2504855)
I have 55w 6k HID's they are not yellow at all.
http://i.imgur.com/ZjcvbeM.jpg

Ah I see, what brand are they? Also I have already emailed the store I got the lights from and they are replacing the bulbs for free.

Mysta316 01-12-2016 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by IgamaS (Post 2506066)
Ah I see, what brand are they? Also I have already emailed the store I got the lights from and they are replacing the bulbs for free.

I got [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FC22PVS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailp age_o01_s00"]these[/ame]. I had them in my last car and also put them in my wifes CX5 and have not had a issue with them and they have a 2 year warranty.

IgamaS 01-13-2016 01:24 AM

ah awesome thanks.


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