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Moe23 11-23-2015 09:42 AM

WINDOW WONT GO UP!
 
So today as i was on my way to college, i noticed that my passenger side window wouldn't roll down due to freezing temperatures (live in canada) after i managed to get the window unfrozen, i realized i can only roll the window down not up. any suggestions? also the driver side switch for the passenger window doesn't work. doesn't allow me to roll the window up or down, but the passenger side switch can only roll it down. Any suggestions? :bs:

MuseChaser 11-23-2015 09:45 AM

There's a TSB on the windows for freezing. Contact a dealership. Are you still w/in the warranty period? If so, the fix is on them.

Barry

Moe23 11-23-2015 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 2459466)
There's a TSB on the windows for freezing. Contact a dealership. Are you still w/in the warranty period? If so, the fix is on them.

Barry

warranty ended 4k ago :bonk:
Thanks for the help!

Tcoat 11-23-2015 09:53 AM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1358266094

Dadhawk 11-23-2015 09:59 AM

One possibility is you have something "off the track" now inside the door. I haven't looked at the schematics for the mechanism but did have this happen with a GM vehicle once. Every time it rained the window would roll down, but not up. There was a small leak in one of the window gaskets, and it would make one of the plastic pulleys used for "up" slippery enough it couldn't turn the cable. You could roll it up about a half inch at the time by waiting a few seconds between attempts.


Could be worse. A buddy of mine just had to take his Challenger in for warranty work because the window wouldn't stop going up/down the 1 inch for the door open/close (similar to the 86). It completely drained his battery before he could get it serviced. I asked why he didn't just pull the fuse and he gave me that "well duh!" look because he didn't think of it.

wheelhaus 11-23-2015 10:02 AM

Cold temps won't prevent the windows from functioning, unless water freezes and causes ta jam. This is mostly happens when you just open a frozen door because the window will auto down/up a half inch. Also, I've read some people tearing their weatherstripping when water freezes to the back edge of the glass. If you clean/treat the rubber it should help prevent this. The instructions Tcoat posted above will help reset the motor/sensor.

One freezing workaround is to use a can of de-ice spray, I'm using one from Prestone. It evaporates quickly and won't harm anything. Before you open the door, spray some along the weatherstrip behind the glass, and along the wiper seal where the glass goes into the door. Wait a few seconds and the ice should just fall apart. I carry a backpack to and from work, so in the winter I just keep a can in the bag. If that's inconvenient, Throw a can in your trunk.

Moe23 11-23-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2459476)

WORKED!!
you might of just saved my life, thanks a lot buddy!:thanks:

Tcoat 11-23-2015 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Moe23 (Post 2459472)
warranty ended 4k ago :bonk:
Thanks for the help!

I would still take it is and try to get the TSBs done. Since it is a cold weather issue there is no way you would have known until now so a good dealer should do them anyway. Worth a shot since I had them done and it worked well.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1389643313

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1409711423

Moe23 11-23-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2459507)
I would still take it is and try to get the TSBs done. Since it is a cold weather issue there is no way you would have known until now so a good dealer should do them anyway. Worth a shot since I had them done and it worked well.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1389643313

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1409711423

well now that the window is working, you still think i should take it in?

Tcoat 11-23-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Moe23 (Post 2459526)
well now that the window is working, you still think i should take it in?

I would. It will just keep happening and eventually the cut off may not catch things in time and you will actually end up with a damaged window mech.

MuseChaser 11-23-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Moe23 (Post 2459526)
well now that the window is working, you still think i should take it in?

Yes, yes, yes. They're aware of the TSB. I haven't had any problems yet that I've noticed, but I mentioned the known issue to the local dealership when I was there having something else fixed. The service manager had the TSB right there on a pile on his desk. He did say that it wasn't a recall, so technically they didn't need to do the work unless the customer had experienced the problem, but since it's already starting to freeze here he mentioned that it's entirely possible that I'd already had trouble but hadn't realized it. He ordered the parts and will schedule me for the repair when they come it, at no charge.

Sooo.. yes. Give it a shot. Hopefully, your guys are as helpful as mine have been so far.

Oh.. and it was Tcoat who brought this to my attention when I questioned the auto-rolldown/up window-cracking for cabin pressure relief design some days ago. Thanks again, T!

Barry

Tcoat 11-23-2015 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 2459535)
Yes, yes, yes. They're aware of the TSB. I haven't had any problems yet that I've noticed, but I mentioned the known issue to the local dealership when I was there having something else fixed. The service manager had the TSB right there on a pile on his desk. He did say that it wasn't a recall, so technically they didn't need to do the work unless the customer had experienced the problem, but since it's already starting to freeze here he mentioned that it's entirely possible that I'd already had trouble but hadn't realized it. He ordered the parts and will schedule me for the repair when they come it, at no charge.

Sooo.. yes. Give it a shot. Hopefully, your guys are as helpful as mine have been so far.

Oh.. and it was Tcoat who brought this to my attention when I questioned the auto-rolldown/up window-cracking for cabin pressure relief design some days ago. Thanks again, T!

Barry

I am on a window TSB Crusade!

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BlueSky 11-23-2015 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Moe23 (Post 2459505)
WORKED!!
you might of just saved my life, thanks a lot buddy!:thanks:

@Tcoat saves the day again !

Tcoat 11-23-2015 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueSky (Post 2459600)
@Tcoat saves the day again !

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wheelhaus 11-23-2015 12:16 PM

What specifically does the TSB fix/change?

Tcoat 11-23-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelhaus (Post 2459620)
What specifically does the TSB fix/change?

On mine they just had to change the weather strip and lifters since it already had the newer switches. I understand that some of the older ones had a different switch installed as well but do not know what was changed in them.
I did not take it in originally for freezing but for the squeal when it was wet. They did both the window/door TSBs and the squeal went away and I had no issues with it freezing. Well, no issues that would not have happened with any other car at any rate since if there is enough ice no window will work right.

humfrz 11-23-2015 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueSky (Post 2459600)
@Tcoat saves the day again !

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaa.......................:thumbsup:


humfrz

Tcoat 11-23-2015 05:45 PM

@ichitaka05
Another for the FAQ
"My windows froze and now don't work. What do I do?"

Dadhawk 11-23-2015 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2460011)
@ichitaka05
Another for the FAQ
"My windows froze and now don't work. What do I do?"

First you reboot...oh wait...never mind, that's my day job....

Tcoat 11-23-2015 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 2460207)
First you reboot...oh wait...never mind, that's my day job....

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Kickn' it old school

KR-S 11-23-2015 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2460011)
@ichitaka05
Another for the FAQ
"My windows froze and now don't work. What do I do?"

Delete system32. That will resolve all issues, guaranteed.

BlueSky 11-24-2015 09:45 AM

http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m...pszkrkpfc9.jpg
Some fellow IT in the house

Tcoat 11-24-2015 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueSky (Post 2460641)

Well....
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97653

BlueSky 11-24-2015 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2460715)



LOL I remember reading that thread before
can't believe that worked !
I actually had a similar issue with my 95 Honda prelude
the rear tails would constantly stay on, I would have to pull the fuse every night just so it wouldn't drain
one day I unhooked the battery and it fixed it, should of tried that first being I am IT

yam86 12-09-2016 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2459476)

This just saved my life today! My driver side window couldnt go up I panicked a bit for security reasons.
Thanks a lot.
Canadian winter really sucks :)

Tcoat 12-09-2016 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yam86 (Post 2811429)
This just saved my life today! My driver side window couldnt go up I panicked a bit for security reasons.
Thanks a lot.
Canadian winter really sucks :)

One post. Two lives saved!


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Wingnutt 02-07-2022 03:20 PM

I'm stuck having this problem except.. the fix isn't working for me .

The drivers side window is stuck DOWN

the passenger window won't move using the drivers side switch but will work with the passenger side switch.


The drivers side motor clicks when I push the button down but when I hit UP its silent, no response.
I've been fighting this for hours and no luck.


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