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MasonL1997 11-22-2015 11:16 PM

Soot in Exhaust...Normal?
 
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Hi everyone,

Ive had the car for just over 3 months and am the second owner with the car currently having 31 thousand kilometers. Now, when ever i go WOT and get out of the car after driving, i look at the exhaust and notice a small amount of black soot in the exhaust. Is this normal? Then if i dont clean it, after a fair bit of spirited driving i find the exhaust having quite a lot of soot inside it. Is this normal?

(Refer to pictures, one is still dirty, the other i have cleaned)

Thanks,
Mason

Impureclient 11-22-2015 11:26 PM

Unburnt fuel from running rich. Normal.

BRZ'13 11-22-2015 11:27 PM

Seems normal (i hope). All the cars iv owned/scene have jt. Just make sure its not oil. I dont even bother cleaning mine

KR-S 11-22-2015 11:45 PM

It's totaled. :D

MasonL1997 11-23-2015 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 2459201)
Unburnt fuel from running rich. Normal.

running rich....will it cause injector problems down the track?

MasonL1997 11-23-2015 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KR-S 86 (Post 2459211)
It's totaled. :D

Damn it! I too fit in with every second post on this forum regarding a totaled car

FRSBRZGT86FAN 11-23-2015 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MasonL1997 (Post 2459246)
running rich....will it cause injector problems down the track?

No, the black "soot" you're talking about is just the carbon buildup due the afr being rich. All cars are set up to run a little rich in stock form - rich is "safe" from the manufacturer perspective. It will not cause injector problems every car has this buildup on the tips it's just some of them you can't see it. Also the FA20 uses Direct injection and port fuel injection. i.e. it has 8 injectors. Port injection still works much better for low rpm and idling for emissions & power. If anything were to be effected by soot it would only be the 4 injectors within the cylinders. At WOT at some points I'm pretty sure it uses both and you'll get that carbon on the tips the more frequently when that happens. Just keep cleaning it every month or so, so that it doesn't get caked on.

MasonL1997 11-23-2015 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2459251)
No, the black "soot" you're talking about is just the carbon buildup due the afr being rich. All cars are set up to run a little rich in stock form - rich is "safe" from the manufacturer perspective. It will not cause injector problems every car has this buildup on the tips it's just some of them you can't see it. Also the FA20 uses Direct injection and port fuel injection. i.e. it has 8 injectors. Port injection still works much better for low rpm and idling for emissions & power. At WOT at some points I'm pretty sure it uses both and you'll get that carbon on the tips the more frequently when that happens. Just keep cleaning it every month or so, so that it doesn't get caked on.

Awesome! Thank you heaps!

aegisdrgn 11-23-2015 01:31 AM

If you're curious to learn more about the port / direct injection modes...you've come to the right forum!

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50827

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3172

Hotrodheart 11-23-2015 01:34 AM

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/201...pe-trick-o.gif

Braces 11-23-2015 08:26 AM

Is that the same black soot on the floor?

stevesnj 11-23-2015 11:10 AM

http://memecrunch.com/meme/6N4YE/it-....jpg?w=625&c=1

extrashaky 11-23-2015 11:18 AM

You can monitor your AFR with Torque to see if you're running the right mixture. It usually runs about 14.5 to 1.

jawn 11-23-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2459563)
You can monitor your AFR with Torque to see if you're running the right mixture. It usually runs about 14.5 to 1.

Not under load.

MisterSheep 11-23-2015 12:29 PM

The black "soot" is just unburnt fuel collecting in your exhaust pipes. Definately normal. Would rather have my car running rich rather than lean. Best thing you could do is tune your AFR and get a gauge to monitor your AFR.

MasonL1997 11-23-2015 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Braces (Post 2459419)
Is that the same black soot on the floor?

Not it's not, it's just some paint stained on the floor from a project.

Timmy_Jones 11-24-2015 04:34 PM

Normal....look at mine (I deleted the first cat when I did the UEL header). Also notice how the passenger tip is more dirty than the driver.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...909D20CF85.jpg

Packofcrows 11-25-2015 04:01 AM

Now I cant wait to go home and check to see if I have a dirty TRD exhaust too. Only issue I saw was when real cold lots of water coming out of exhaust. Damn cat. 3 O2 + 2 CH2 ---> 2 CO2 + 2 H20

FrankAR15 11-25-2015 10:31 PM

What are you guys using to clean the caked on stuff?

soulreapersteve 11-25-2015 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankAR15 (Post 2462910)
What are you guys using to clean the caked on stuff?

Water and microfiber towel... at least that works for me.

Hit the tail pipes with pressurized stream of water then watch it fly away... lol

fx1mark 11-25-2015 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankAR15 (Post 2462910)
What are you guys using to clean the caked on stuff?


metal polish and elbow grease.

lukey86 11-26-2015 12:03 AM

Totally normal, I get the same thing on my Volkswagen all the time :D

sprintertrueno86 11-26-2015 12:49 AM

My tips are clean...guess I'm not driving my car hard enough.:(

NOHOME 11-26-2015 12:24 PM

I just cant get over the fact that someone would clean the tailpipe. I admit that I live in the opposite quadrant of the universe when it comes to washing a car, but seriously, cleaning the tailpipe?

I have a life.

Tcoat 11-26-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintertrueno86 (Post 2463001)
My tips are clean...guess I'm not driving my car hard enough.:(

My tips look like I drive a diesel!

http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.news...-roal-gif2.gif

Cole 11-26-2015 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 2463217)
I just cant get over the fact that someone would clean the tailpipe. I admit that I live in the opposite quadrant of the universe when it comes to washing a car, but seriously, cleaning the tailpipe?

I have a life.

I'll do it sometimes if I hand wash my car (which is MAYBE once a month during spring/summer, and only if its 28*C or warmer) and I remember to do it. But for the most part, I just usually forget about it because it doesn't bother me at all..

NOHOME 11-26-2015 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2463218)
My tips look like I drive a diesel!

http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.news...-roal-gif2.gif

So, is that the new VW pick-up?

Tcoat 11-26-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 2463253)
So, is that the new VW pick-up?

Yep. All tests show it well under the permitted emissions.

BRZnut 11-26-2015 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 2463217)
I just cant get over the fact that someone would clean the tailpipe. I admit that I live in the opposite quadrant of the universe when it comes to washing a car, but seriously, cleaning the tailpipe?

I have a life.



Yes, doesn't everyone? I use metal polish

Demandred7 11-26-2015 04:29 PM

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I think that it might have something to do with the type of tips that you have. The original OEM ones weren't as noticeable to me as the tips that I replaced them with. Mine are DC Sports EX-1013's and the flat surface area tends to make it more noticeable. They look great when clean, but, I feel like I need to clean them when I do the rest of the car.

Impureclient 11-26-2015 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 2463217)
I just cant get over the fact that someone would clean the tailpipe. I admit that I live in the opposite quadrant of the universe when it comes to washing a car, but seriously, cleaning the tailpipe?

I have a life.

Clean tailpipes = very clean car
If those pipes are clean then you know for a fact the rest of the car is meticulously maintained. Every other weekend when I wash my car, I wipe them down and obviously the rest of the car is showroom condition. I even pop the hood and wipe under there down once in a while. I have a busy life too but I take the 30 seconds extra worth of time to wipe those pipes to make the car perfect since I only wash the car every other week.

2JZ-GTE 11-26-2015 04:59 PM

:iono: at least your "tips" didnt get creampied:cry:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80328 :D

NOHOME 11-27-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 2463393)
Clean tailpipes = very clean car
If those pipes are clean then you know for a fact the rest of the car is meticulously maintained. Every other weekend when I wash my car, I wipe them down and obviously the rest of the car is showroom condition. I even pop the hood and wipe under there down once in a while. I have a busy life too but I take the 30 seconds extra worth of time to wipe those pipes to make the car perfect since I only wash the car every other week.


Just to put it in context, when I say "Opposite Quadrant of the Universe" I mean "I washed a car once, but don't remember when".:iono:

If its clean, its because I just finished restoring it from a pile of scrap and its had its first and last bath. Don't ask me how the two extremes co-exist cause I cant explain it either.:bonk:

MasonL1997 11-29-2015 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Demandred7 (Post 2463381)
I think that it might have something to do with the type of tips that you have. The original OEM ones weren't as noticeable to me as the tips that I replaced them with. Mine are DC Sports EX-1013's and the flat surface area tends to make it more noticeable. They look great when clean, but, I feel like I need to clean them when I do the rest of the car.

Ive got the 86 in Australia, so theyre just the normal stock tips that come standard over here.

MasonL1997 11-29-2015 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 2463217)
I just cant get over the fact that someone would clean the tailpipe. I admit that I live in the opposite quadrant of the universe when it comes to washing a car, but seriously, cleaning the tailpipe?

I have a life.

Each to their own i guess, But i do enjoy keeping my car in show room condition so cleaning the tips makes it look that much better than having a lot of carbon build up on a perfectly clean car

weederr33 11-29-2015 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankAR15 (Post 2462910)
What are you guys using to clean the caked on stuff?

Tears of a child.





Or dish soap

NOHOME 11-30-2015 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 2465284)
Tears of a child.





Or dish soap


Maybe for the tailpipe, but dish-soap is bad for car exterior.

weederr33 11-30-2015 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 2466053)
Maybe for the tailpipe, but dish-soap is bad for car exterior.

Well yeah. Salt from child's tears will eat the clear coat! I only use it on the tail pipe inside.

Cedars 11-30-2015 04:08 PM

Do you recommend washing the engine with a high pressure nozzle? Has anyone had any problems doing that?

ConceptX 11-30-2015 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cedars (Post 2466241)
Do you recommend washing the engine with a high pressure nozzle? Has anyone had any problems doing that?

Use low pressure...

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26551


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