Originally Posted by brillo (Post 2458095)

I want to upgrade my Perrin Tune to a tuner who is continuing refine their maps. In terms of wish list here are my priorities:
1. Safety - I hpde the car so it gets run hard, don't need a tune on ragged edge that can't been run hard for extended periods of time.
2. Daily driveability / stable idle
3. Torque dip elimination - best average power band even at expense of top end power.

I get the impression both tuners are very good but is one better for my needs?

Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2458099)

Why did you make 2 threads??

Also if it is a "stock" NA tune as you call it then these guys don't do "stock" tunes, toyota and subaru do stock tunes haha!

I think both these tuners are more then capable of making you a tune (I assume you want to get a E-tune vs a can tune just my .02 cents) I would go with whoever can provide you with better customer service. Both of these tuners have the skills to tune your car well.