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brillo 11-21-2015 11:34 AM
Stock NA Tune - Motoeast or Delicious Tuning?
 
I want to upgrade my Perrin Tune to a tuner who is continuing refine their maps. In terms of wish list here are my priorities:
1. Safety - I hpde the car so it gets run hard, don't need a tune on ragged edge that can't been run hard for extended periods of time.
2. Daily driveability / stable idle
3. Torque dip elimination - best average power band even at expense of top end power.

I get the impression both tuners are very good but is one better for my needs?

go_a_way1 11-21-2015 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by brillo (Post 2458094)
I want to upgrade my Perrin Tune to a tuner who is continuing refine their maps. In terms of wish list here are my priorities:
1. Safety - I hpde the car so it gets run hard, don't need a tune on ragged edge that can't been run hard for extended periods of time.
2. Daily driveability / stable idle
3. Torque dip elimination - best average power band even at expense of top end power.

I get the impression both tuners are very good but is one better for my needs?
Why did you make 2 threads??

Also if it is a "stock" NA tune as you call it then these guys don't do "stock" tunes, toyota and subaru do stock tunes haha!

I think both these tuners are more then capable of making you a tune (I assume you want to get a E-tune vs a can tune just my .02 cents) I would go with whoever can provide you with better customer service. Both of these tuners have the skills to tune your car well.

brillo 11-21-2015 11:46 AM
By stock I mean I don't have any exhaust or header mods so the tune is based around the stock car.

Apologies for the duplicate thread, posting from my phone.

go_a_way1 11-21-2015 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by brillo (Post 2458102)
By stock I mean I don't have any exhaust or header mods so the tune is based around the stock car.

Apologies for the duplicate thread, posting from my phone.

I know, I was just being a troll haha! I would get a stage 1 E-tune if I was you. Talk to them both, send them an email. Personally I would go with motoeast @moto-mike as I have heard nothing but good things. I do know Delicious has some great "canned" tunes if you just want a flash and go but you will not get the full benifit of a tune if that is the way you go.

As for the duplicate thread its okay they will delete it.

DeliciousTuning 11-21-2015 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by brillo (Post 2458094)
I want to upgrade my Perrin Tune to a tuner who is continuing refine their maps. In terms of wish list here are my priorities:
1. Safety - I hpde the car so it gets run hard, don't need a tune on ragged edge that can't been run hard for extended periods of time.
2. Daily driveability / stable idle
3. Torque dip elimination - best average power band even at expense of top end power.

I get the impression both tuners are very good but is one better for my needs?
Definitely us. No particular reason. ;)

Just kidding. Moto Mike is an excellent tuner, and I believe we've both done several hundred FR-S/BRZ around the world. You really can't go wrong.

I will say, and I think Mike will agree, that you won't be able to entirely eliminate the torque dip without going to an aftermarket header. The UEL headers are particularly good at achieving this and having good power throughout the band. All of our NA tunes are extremely reliable and stable in all areas. We also have several sponsored cars in various racing sanctions beating the crap out of their cars and taking podiums.

Hope this helps! :burnrubber:

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

NyC Zn6 11-21-2015 02:34 PM
So your just trying to fine tune a Perrin intake...not worth it in my opinion. ...get a header then get it fine tuned and thank me later...I have only heard great thinks about both tuning companies. My friend has a Ecutek E85 flex fuel tune from Delicious and well it's a beast for NA. Car broke 13's with weight reduction..full exhaust and ACE header

brillo 11-21-2015 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NyC Zn6 (Post 2458211)
So your just trying to fine tune a Perrin intake...not worth it in my opinion. ...get a header then get it fine tuned and thank me later...I have only heard great thinks about both tuning companies. My friend has a Ecutek E85 flex fuel tune from Delicious and well it's a beast for NA. Car broke 13's with weight reduction..full exhaust and ACE header
I don't have the Perrin intake, I have a Perrin Ecutek tune. Perrin's tune isn't bad but I don't think they are continuing to update / refine their tunes like some other dedicated tuners. This is in no way a slight on them, great guys with good products but they have a lot of projects on the go aside from tuning. There tune has been safe and reliable but I think others have gotten more of the torque dip eliminated. I recognize that without a header there will still be a bit of a dip.

I'm not sure a header is in the cards at this point so I'm trying to squeeze what I can out of the stock engine (I have a Perrin air filter in my stock airbox).

I've heard great things about both Delicious and MotoEast just didn't know if either of them had a better tune given the stock components.

go_a_way1 11-21-2015 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by brillo (Post 2458262)
I don't have the Perrin intake, I have a Perrin Ecutek tune. Perrin's tune isn't bad but I don't think they are continuing to update / refine their tunes like some other dedicated tuners. This is in no way a slight on them, great guys with good products but they have a lot of projects on the go aside from tuning. There tune has been safe and reliable but I think others have gotten more of the torque dip eliminated. I recognize that without a header there will still be a bit of a dip.

I'm not sure a header is in the cards at this point so I'm trying to squeeze what I can out of the stock engine (I have a Perrin air filter in my stock airbox).

I've heard great things about both Delicious and MotoEast just didn't know if either of them had a better tune given the stock components.
If you dont have emission laws you should just gut both your cats and keep the stock system then get the tuner of your choice to tune it, you will get way more gains for very little to no extra cost.

Toyota86.ir 11-23-2015 01:01 AM
our team in tehran remotely worked with both mike and william.
go for Moto-Mike , so responsive and professional. Mike is great

FRS Justin 11-23-2015 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Toyota86.ir (Post 2459244)
our team in tehran remotely worked with both mike and william.
go for Moto-Mike , so responsive and professional. Mike is great
I can say the same for Bill at Delicious Tuning, he was good enough to work with me at the track remotely and needless to say we set records that day.
Zach keeps things moving along when Bill is tuning so delays are very rare.....:thumbsup:


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