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maybebrz 11-13-2015 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2450013)
Buy which the BRZ or the STi?
Brz

carma143 11-13-2015 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunman (Post 2450037)
I still don't see anything patent able about the style of a car, unless laws are different in Japan. It would seem to fall under copyright law, as I understand it.
I'm picking at straws here, but maybe it is patent-able because the design isn't simply for show. Car designs in sports cars are usually rigorously tested to produce a low drag coefficient, among other performance related enhancements.

I have still yet to apply for a patent at the ripe age of 18, but I would wager that the time and effort put into "function over form" warrants a patent.

Tcoat 11-13-2015 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by maybebrz (Post 2449109)
Honestly the only way I would buy this car if the price dropped and/or there was a significant upgrade and stayed the same price or went lower.
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2450013)
Buy which the BRZ or the STi?
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Originally Posted by maybebrz (Post 2450115)
Brz
How do you think that they can do a "significant upgrade" and charge the same or less? What constitutes a "significant upgrade"?

maybebrz 11-13-2015 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2450219)
How do you think that they can do a "significant upgrade" and charge the same or less? What constitutes a "significant upgrade"?
I don't know, I'm not a car engineer. My options for buying one would be a) keep it the same but lower the price ~5K or b) keep it the same price and add more power and some interior upgrades.

Tcoat 11-13-2015 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by maybebrz (Post 2450248)
I don't know, I'm not a car engineer. My options for buying one would be a) keep it the same but lower the price ~5K or b) keep it the same price and add more power and some interior upgrades.
The manufacturer currently makes about $1K a car so I don't think there is any room to bring it down $5K and the price is what it is I am afraid. As far as the more power aspect goes, have you test drove one to see if it needs it?

BRZoomTX 11-13-2015 10:16 AM
These are the patents for the BRZ STi prototype design. Subaru patents all of their prototypes. This is nothing new.

Subaru never delivers on their prototypes. The BRZ will not be any different. Its just a patent to protect that design.

maybebrz 11-13-2015 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2450254)
The manufacturer currently makes about $1K a car so I don't think there is any room to bring it down $5K and the price is what it is I am afraid. As far as the more power aspect goes, have you test drove one to see if it needs it?
Yes

fumanchu1 11-13-2015 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by maybebrz (Post 2450248)
I don't know, I'm not a car engineer. My options for buying one would be a) keep it the same but lower the price ~5K or b) keep it the same price and add more power and some interior upgrades.
So let me get this straight you want a bonified sports car for the price of a fiat 500... got it you are fucking off your rockers

jawn 11-13-2015 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunman (Post 2450037)
I still don't see anything patent able about the style of a car, unless laws are different in Japan. It would seem to fall under copyright law, as I understand it.
In the US, you can certainly file for a design patent. There is some overlap in what is copyrightable material and patentable material. This is an article of manufacture, so a design patent does apply here. Design patents are subject to a 15 year term.

maybebrz 11-13-2015 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fumanchu1 (Post 2450758)
So let me get this straight you want a bonified sports car for the price of a fiat 500... got it you are fucking off your rockers
http://artofgears.com/2015/10/11/lea...ighs-2160-lbs/

fumanchu1 11-13-2015 06:53 PM
not a dedicated sports car its a sporty sub-compact, try again.

maybebrz 11-13-2015 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fumanchu1 (Post 2450834)
not a dedicated sports car its a sporty sub-compact, try again.
No, that is a dedicated sports car. And what am I trying for again? Anyway it's what I'm going to buy if it comes out soon. The BRZ is $5K too expensive like I said. I mean reasons why or why not don't really matter, it just is.

Gunman 11-13-2015 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2450765)
In the US, you can certainly file for a design patent. There is some overlap in what is copyrightable material and patentable material. This is an article of manufacture, so a design patent does apply here. Design patents are subject to a 15 year term.
I'm no legal expert, I just know on cars that I've worked on the design, patents were gotten on certain parts/mechanisms, but never on the entire car. On another car, the car's shape, logo, name, etc., have gotten copyrights.

Tcoat 11-13-2015 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by maybebrz (Post 2450820)
Dude! It is a clickbait site quoting a forum as it's source. Hardly a credible statement.


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