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btsokolas 11-08-2015 04:35 PM

Anyone Ice Autocross their FRS/BRZ/GT86?
 
This upcoming winter, I plan to ice autocross my BRZ (I live in Illinois). This is my first time ice autocrossing and was wondering if anyone had any experience ice autocrossing their car before and had any input on it.

stevesnj 11-08-2015 07:46 PM

Make your own ice racing tire

http://www.vermontracing.com/project...bolts_tire.jpg

Rustyspoon 11-08-2015 09:47 PM

bolts are fun if you want to go crazy fast... but they may be against the rules.

I would recommend getting studded tires for sure. I tried to do ice racing on non studded tires and the difference is huge.

If you really want to go crazy and dont mind changing tires at the event, weathermate (walmart cheapy winter tire) with truck studs in them are amazing. Not bolts in the tire amazing, but pretty good.

stevesnj 11-08-2015 10:17 PM

Would love to try this, at least once in my life. I have to find the closest track/lake though

wparsons 11-08-2015 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rustyspoon (Post 2445548)
bolts are fun if you want to go crazy fast... but they may be against the rules.

I would recommend getting studded tires for sure. I tried to do ice racing on non studded tires and the difference is huge.

If you really want to go crazy and dont mind changing tires at the event, weathermate (walmart cheapy winter tire) with truck studs in them are amazing. Not bolts in the tire amazing, but pretty good.

Studs might be against the rules too, depending on organization and class.

At the very least, you'll want to tractionize the tires

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWYHgHrD-3o"]This is Tractionizing - YouTube[/ame]

ka-t_240 11-09-2015 02:59 PM

Where do you plan on racing?


CWSCC/FVSCC run a bunch of ice racing, I know some people come up from Chicago. They would be a great resource, but I don't think any of them have ice raced this chassis yet. It should be happening this year tho.

btsokolas 11-09-2015 08:12 PM

Yup, those were the groups I was looking at. I have a buddy that ice autocrosses his S2K and he has given me some advice but I was just seeing if there were any FRS/BRZ specific suggestions. Yea its going to be a mild winter so I don't know how many events will happen.

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Originally Posted by ka-t_240 (Post 2446138)
Where do you plan on racing?


CWSCC/FVSCC run a bunch of ice racing, I know some people come up from Chicago. They would be a great resource, but I don't think any of them have ice raced this chassis yet. It should be happening this year tho.


ka-t_240 11-09-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by btsokolas (Post 2446537)
Yup, those were the groups I was looking at. I have a buddy that ice autocrosses his S2K and he has given me some advice but I was just seeing if there were any FRS/BRZ specific suggestions. Yea its going to be a mild winter so I don't know how many events will happen.

Oh Andy! I'm fairly good freinds with Andy. Do as much racing as I can with that crew, but its a long drive from ND.

btsokolas 11-09-2015 09:00 PM

Yup Andy. He's hellafast. That's what I plan. It is kinda a long drive from where I am in Chicago too so I will have to block out the whole weekend for ice autocross.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ka-t_240 (Post 2446574)
Oh Andy! I'm fairly good freinds with Andy. Do as much racing as I can with that crew, but its a long drive from ND.


Rustyspoon 11-10-2015 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2445570)
Studs might be against the rules too, depending on organization and class.

At the very least, you'll want to tractionize the tires

This is Tractionizing - YouTube

I cant really say i understand why or how that would help.....

markw 11-10-2015 02:23 AM

What is this thing called winter?

rx3 11-10-2015 04:51 AM

I once lived in the US and took part at several ice racing events in NH.
I was a ton of fun.

They had different tire classes (all season, winter and studded tires).

Don't go too crazy on tires before you don't know what classes there are and what people are running.

ka-t_240 11-10-2015 09:56 AM

No need for studs, start out with some good snow tires. Especially since you will have to drive the car a couple hours to the events. Plus, it will give you a lot of practice and allow you to get very used to letting the car slide around. Ice racing is an amazing seat time experience.

wparsons 11-10-2015 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rustyspoon (Post 2446729)
I cant really say i understand why or how that would help.....

Look at anyone ice racing in rubber to ice (no studs) classes, anyone doing remotely well will have tractionized their tires for sure.

It's the same principle as the manufactured siping (slits) in snow/ice tires, taken to a greater level.


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