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True, didn't think of that. Though they are changing rapidly.
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They didn't. It is a roadster, not a coupé. Until the MX-5 doesn't have a Coupé variant - not heavy hard-top Roadster - it'll never be considered as a sports car (at least by me). |
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Considering how many are winning in autox and how popular the miata spec class was I'd say it's a sports car.
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Whoa.. I thought I had seen it all but someone says the Miata isn't a sports car? Uh.. it's kind of the sports car. The answer to 9 out of 10 questions is Miata isn't it?
Rhetorical because the answer to that question is: Miata. |
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If the MX-5 is a sports car, then it is not the one I want, because I don't want open top. Closed top FFS. If it is the best selling sports car, what keeps them of building one with closed top FFS? They don't want to sell even more?
MX-5 Coupé, hard-top, not opening, closed, like GT86, not like S2000, like Cayman, not like SLK, DOES NOT OPEN AT ALL, too difficult to understand? Maybe the is no Japanese word for MX-5 Coupé? LIKE THIS: http://static.autoblog.nl/images/wp2...5_Coupe_NB.jpg You no understand or trolling? |
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How hard would it be to get the hard too convertible and leave the top up all the time? Or buy the soft top and put the optional hard top on and leave it on?
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Even if they were planning a new rx8 I doubt they would announce it right before the miata is set to go on sale. They would be shooting themselves in the foot.
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Crappy engine = no car.
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Well if you are bemoaning the death of the rotary engine, you can always follow Freedom Motors, a subsidiary of my favorite aviation huckster Moller International and their flying car that was going to fly 'any day now' since the late '80s. (Moller invented the SuperTrapp muffler and is a bit of a savant at making money to fund his dream).
They have a "65lb rotary engine producing 204HP" http://www.moller.com/images/Mario-w-Engine.jpg |
Except, the 650cc model makes only 70some horsepower at 7000rpm. That's only barely more than half of what a 4 stroke produces, eating away half of the power/weight advantage they claim.
It also makes me wonder how good the efficiency can possibly be if the motor produces so little power per unit airflow. |
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Ya know, I think rotaries could see use in one new application: serial-hybrid power sources for large exoskeletons (think the yellow Power Loader from Aliens, or the Landmate suits from Appleseed if you're an anime fan). I also think this is a good application for small gas turbines. Both types of engines are small and optimally run at a constant high RPM. Just use them as generators to keep the batteries/capacitors charged and run the whole suit off of electricity. |
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The efficiency may be a problem, as with small gas turbines. A turbocharged, turbocompounded mini-rotary engine could do well though as an ultra light generator, assuming the apex seals don't blow. |
Apex seals blow cuz stupid people boost up the engine without proper tune
I like to think mazda will not produce the an rx car because the high standards of emissions dont forget they won LeMans in 1991 |
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Moller and Freedom Motors are such a scam site. Hilarious. RX-8 apex seals often break at low miles. Mazda knows how to make great 4-cylinder engines. Why would they pour good money after bad on the rotary?
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In related news, the Australians have announced they will continue to put rotaries in, well, anything apparently.
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Return of the RX-7???
I know there's been rumors every year but this might actually be happening, just in time for the 50th anniv. of the rotary.
http://www.mazda-press.com/eu/news/m...aled-in-tokyo/ http://www.mazda-press.com/assets/ne....jpg?width=696 |
I doubt a rotary engine could be made to meet current emissions regs. But if real, I'd be all over a new rotary
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This is the first real evidence that they could be working on something that may someday lead to a sports coupe alongside the Miata. Not getting my hopes up, but this is more real than anything I've heard in the last 7 years.
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Yeah, i'm trying not to get my hopes up too much either. But still, as you said, it's the first tangible evidence of some truth to all those rumors.
I'd love to see the rotary return, especially a bigger 1.6L. 28 days and counting. Even if the concept car isn't a rotary, I'm still excited to see mazda release a true coupe. |
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The press release says "In another world premiere, Mazda will unveil a new sports car concept at the upcoming Tokyo Motor Show..."
Most recently panties were all awad for the Nissan RDX and Kia Stinger, neither are happening. There isn't going to be a rotary unless some wonderful magic happens to clean them up. How would you all feel about an RX-7 without a rotary. That's more likely. |
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Watching with great interest!
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They are very clear that they are presenting a concept vehicle but...
'Speculation Alert' They also felt it was important that they state "the fabled 1967 Mazda Cosmo Sport 110S – the company’s first rotary powered mass-production model – joins a display of Mazda’s convention-defying engineering legacy". Knowing automotive marketing and the popularity of the whole 'this is where we went from that' thing it could be a telling point. Hats off to Mazda for at least putting out a formal press release and not leaving all the news up to the click baits and blogs like some companies we know (although it will be fun to see what "facts" the click baits add to this release). |
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I would be totally fine with an MX-7. This is the best car news i've heard in a long time. I would hope this would be the same size as an 86 at least. I can not fit in an MX-5 and I will not buy a car smaller than an 86 (interior room wise).
Mazda was recently talking about mazdaspeed 3's and coupes of the mazda 3. I think it would be smart to have their 2.5 in there as a turbo, and RWD. They already have a "slow" convertible sports car in the 25-30k range. It would make sense to me for this to be ~300hp, a little larger than a miata or 86, and a rwd coupe in the 30-40k range, hopefully ~32ish comfortably equipped. It doesn't make sense to me for them to make a car too similar to the miata, which is similar to an 86 in buyer market. To me this would make sense to be a more powerful sports car like the 370z or cayman or something similar. I just wonder how Mazda being the size they are can afford to produce two sports cars without straining themselves. |
Yea that RX-HATE was awesome despite the complete lack of TQ, HP, fuel consumption, fuel flooding, cold shutdown and shotty internals. LOL. However, options and competition are a good thing.
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