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ChrisP 10-28-2015 09:21 PM

Best Paste Wax
 
Just out of curiosity I was wondering what you guys like to use for paste wax. I have the Chemical Guys 5050 wax and I love it, but im always open to suggestions.

JonAvalon 10-28-2015 10:10 PM

I've been using Lusso Oro for about a year now, goes on easy and smells great!
https://www.detailersdomain.com/coll...m-carnauba-wax

radroach 10-29-2015 01:40 AM

I use meguiar's ultimate paste wax once every season since it has good durability. It also looks neat since its a polymer wax. Then I'll apply coats of meguiar's gold class wax a couple times a month, mainly to the front of the car where the polishing oils will fill in the rock chips.

ryoma 10-29-2015 02:21 AM

This is what I have been using for almost the past 5 years: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/P21S-100-Carnauba-Wax/dp/B000ZBHTAI"]Amazon.com: P21S 100% Carnauba Wax: Automotive[/ame]
it's pretty easy to remove as well, even after it dries when you miss a spot and see it the next day. If I spot a missed wax spot, I just spray some detailer on it and it wipes right off. some other waxes are a pain to get off once it dries on.

kch 10-29-2015 01:16 PM

I used dodo juice's supernatural a couple times. it's so expensive--a sample size is $30. :( That being said, I got 5 applications out of it.

But price aside, it looked mighty fine on my CWP. Probably the best I've used.

go_a_way1 10-29-2015 01:16 PM

Autogylm HD wax

NLS8520 11-05-2015 11:42 PM

If you want real world protection, look towards a sealant (or a coating, although I would recommend to you that you would look to a pro to apply the coating). Paste wax generally speaking offers little protection, and that should be the reason to apply a wax in the first place, as the looks are nearly all in the prep. Meaning proper washing and decontamination and polishing. Now with that said if you have a garage queen and you slap a coat of wax on every month, I totally get that usage. There are plenty of options out there, depends what you want to spend. I own Pinnacle Souveran and like the wax quite a bit, natural product, super easy application and removal.

sdemo 11-06-2015 12:00 AM

autogeek.net... go crazy

Tekno Virus 11-06-2015 12:56 AM

Just ordered some 50/50 wax by Chemical Guys. I'd like to try CSP Detailing's wax too.

justinco 11-06-2015 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NLS8520 (Post 2443477)
If you want real world protection, look towards a sealant (or a coating, although I would recommend to you that you would look to a pro to apply the coating). Paste wax generally speaking offers little protection, and that should be the reason to apply a wax in the first place, as the looks are nearly all in the prep. Meaning proper washing and decontamination and polishing. Now with that said if you have a garage queen and you slap a coat of wax on every month, I totally get that usage. There are plenty of options out there, depends what you want to spend. I own Pinnacle Souveran and like the wax quite a bit, natural product, super easy application and removal.

I second the sealant, or professional paint coating, options. Carnauba wax really is old tech by today's paint protection standards. I've also seen it dis-color some brands of clear bra.

I used to use Collinite 845 wax, the Pinnacle stuff is good too.

Pickup a sealant like Blackfire Wet Diamond and you will love it :)

About the only time I use carnauba wax anymore is to top off a sealant on a dark colored show car or garage queen, as it adds more depth and gloss to the finish.

WhiteFRS69 11-06-2015 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JonAvalon (Post 2435017)
I've been using Lusso Oro for about a year now, goes on easy and smells great!
https://www.detailersdomain.com/coll...m-carnauba-wax

i second this! goes on and comes off super easy!

Jesse36m3 11-06-2015 03:58 PM

Big fan of dodo juice. They have a special blend for white cars. Looked spectacular after cutting, polishing, and sealing.

Tekno Virus 11-08-2015 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisP (Post 2434963)
Just out of curiosity I was wondering what you guys like to use for paste wax. I have the Chemical Guys 5050 wax and I love it, but im always open to suggestions.

How much of the 50/50 do you end up using per session? I waxed my car today and it looks phenomenal! But it looks like I used up more than half of the can...

jawn 11-08-2015 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tekno Virus (Post 2445519)
How much of the 50/50 do you end up using per session? I waxed my car today and it looks phenomenal! But it looks like I used up more than half of the can...

You really don't need to apply it that thick.

jawn 11-08-2015 10:11 PM

I should also add that priming your pads before waxing is really helpful in reducing the amount of wax wasted.

Tekno Virus 11-08-2015 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2445558)
I should also add that priming your pads before waxing is really helpful in reducing the amount of wax wasted.

How does one prime the pads?

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jawn 11-08-2015 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tekno Virus (Post 2445560)
How does one prime the pads?

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You want to apply product to the working surface of the pad by hand, prior to adding more product for doing the actual work. Some folks like to use detailer spray instead of the wax to prime their pads, since detail spray is cheaper and soaks into foam easier. With paste wax, it might be easier to use a detail spray to prime.

Also, adjust what your expected wax haze looks like -

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/fo...avy_waxapp.jpg

You should be aiming for the coverage on the left, not the right. Image is just for reference; I don't apply wax in circles.

MuseChaser 11-08-2015 10:30 PM

OK, I'm about to learn ANOTHER lesson here, I guess....

I thought you were supposed to apply wax in a circular motion. What's your recommendation and technique, jawn?

Barry

Tekno Virus 11-08-2015 10:31 PM

I think it had to do with the wax being white and being so fine I could barely see if I had any one there so I probably ended up caking it on there thinking there was barely any on there. The 3X paste wax is yellow and I could see where I applied it.

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jawn 11-08-2015 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 2445568)
OK, I'm about to learn ANOTHER lesson here, I guess....

I thought you were supposed to apply wax in a circular motion. What's your recommendation and technique, jawn?

Barry

This is topic of much debate, but I prefer to do it in overlapping lines. If it's a good paste wax and doesn't have any abrasives or cleaners, you really don't need to do the circles. It's not a polish - you're not buffing anything out with wax.

It's a paste wax - it's supposed to go on super easy - and applying it in circles only introduces the possibilities of swirls if your pad picks up any contaminants. The other side of this debate will be quick to point out that your pads should be clean and shouldn't have contaminants. I don't live in a perfect world, so I go with the method that's easier on my arms.

Ultramaroon 11-08-2015 10:44 PM

I'll probably get some hate for this but what's wrong with regular old Turtle Wax? Works fine for me. Am I missing out on something? Serious question.

edit: yeah, what jawn said. It's just a coating, not a polish.

MuseChaser 11-08-2015 10:46 PM

Good points. I confess I'm not an obsessive detailer; never used clay or compound (other than a combination compound/wax on a decrepit sailboat to try and revitalize the gel coat .. it worked surprisingly well, actually.. but the sailboat crowd scoffs at the all-in-one products, too... deservedly so). I wash my cars very thoroughly, dry'em w/ chamois, then hand apply paste wax. As I apply the wax, I always end up finding the odd little piece of crud that I missed, but the wax seems to help lift off those remnants easily. For my lackadaisical approach, maybe I should stick w/ circular... or maybe bite the bullet and REALLY learn how to get a beautiful finish eventually.

I'm all ears... or eyes, as the case may be.. thanks.

Barry

jawn 11-08-2015 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2445574)
I'll probably get some hate for this but what's wrong with regular old Turtle Wax? Works fine for me. Am I missing out on something? Serious question.

I use the off-the-shelf stuff sometimes (I really like a lot of the Meguiar's products), but I've always found Turtle Wax stuff to be a little greasy and harder to remove, and the results aren't quite as OMGSHOWCAR as the specialty stuff.

If you're just looking for a little protection from the elements and some shine, basically any wax will do. Next time you run out of Turtle Wax, try something new! It's not like it's a long-term lifestyle commitment.

ChrisP 11-08-2015 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tekno Virus (Post 2445519)
How much of the 50/50 do you end up using per session? I waxed my car today and it looks phenomenal! But it looks like I used up more than half of the can...

Chemical Guys says that all there 8oz paste waxes should last through 100 waxes. But thats provably if you do the thinnest coat known to man

Ultramaroon 11-09-2015 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2445583)
I've always found Turtle Wax stuff to be a little greasy and harder to remove, and the results aren't quite as OMGSHOWCAR as the specialty stuff.

If you're just looking for a little protection from the elements and some shine, basically any wax will do. Next time you run out of Turtle Wax, try something new! It's not like it's a long-term lifestyle commitment.

Do you mean buffing off the haze? It is kind of a PITA. I always worry about creasing the roof but I just figured it was a part of what made it relatively durable.

As much as I fear change, I will find a way to soldier through and try something different. :D

jawn 11-09-2015 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2445652)
Do you mean buffing off the haze? It is kind of a PITA. I always worry about creasing the roof but I just figured it was a part of what made it relatively durable.

As much as I fear change, I will find a way to soldier through and try something different. :D

Yeah, buffing off the haze.

If you're looking for durable, try a sealant. Meguiar's Ultimate Wax (despite the name) is all synthetic, and lasts a surprisingly long time.

Ultramaroon 11-09-2015 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2445655)
Meguiar's Ultimate Wax

I'm on it like a fat kid on a Mars Bar.

soulreapersteve 11-09-2015 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2445574)
I'll probably get some hate for this but what's wrong with regular old Turtle Wax? Works fine for me. Am I missing out on something? Serious question.

edit: yeah, what jawn said. It's just a coating, not a polish.

I used Turtle Wax Ice spray. Mostly because I'm lazy and finished the whole car in what...15 minutes? Still looks good and water just flies right off now (very little dirty water left behind from the constant rain here). But pretty sure it'll wear off faster than the other product out there.

But like jawn mentioned, it was pretty greasy for the first couple of days after application.

86geek 11-09-2015 01:42 PM

Opti Coat then no need to use paste wax.
I just use Optimum spray wax and instant detailer to maintain slick, shine and gloss. ;)

Tekno Virus 11-09-2015 02:22 PM

https://scontent-dfw1-1.cdninstagram...26982623_n.jpg

Waxed it

Fishbed77 11-25-2015 11:49 AM

Really liking Smartwax these days. Extremely easy to wax off, and seems to last a long time.

EzyBrzy 11-25-2015 12:31 PM

I want to try Pinnacle Souveran and Wolfgang Fuzion. Both pretty expensive.

kch 11-25-2015 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EzyBrzy (Post 2462319)
I want to try Pinnacle Souveran and Wolfgang Fuzion. Both pretty expensive.

Get the liquid souveran and machine-apply. It gets you 90% of the benefit of paste souveran for much less money.

Gunman 11-25-2015 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 2445568)
OK, I'm about to learn ANOTHER lesson here, I guess....

I thought you were supposed to apply wax in a circular motion. What's your recommendation and technique, jawn?

Barry

Fore/aft on top surfaces, up down on vertical surfaces, is what I have always been told.

No wax for me, I use Zaino.

Packofcrows 11-26-2015 12:07 AM

Turtle wax is stinky and greasy...nasty greasy.

I prefer Mothers, Meguiars or chemical guys. They have fun and great waxes! Some can even be used while car is wet!

Mothers: 7/10
Turtle: 6/10
Meguiars: 8/10
Chemical guys: 8/10

Meguiars is best when you let it sit in sun so it thaws/melts a tad.

humfrz 11-26-2015 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2462981)
................

Meguiars is best when you let it sit in sun so it thaws/melts a tad.


.........ahhhhhhhh........ @Packofcrows ....... you don't have to store the wax in your freezer ..... :confused0068:


humfrz

Packofcrows 11-26-2015 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2463013)
.........ahhhhhhhh........ @Packofcrows ....... you don't have to store the wax in your freezer ..... :confused0068:


humfrz

Silly you lol

It's just a generally tough paste to work with! If I let the sun warm it up a bit, it becomes softer and easier to apply. It does a fabulous job though.


Turtle is easier to use. Always soft in my experience but the smell and greasiness reminds me of fat camp races for twinkies.

EzyBrzy 11-26-2015 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kch (Post 2462347)
Get the liquid souveran and machine-apply. It gets you 90% of the benefit of paste souveran for much less money.

Any difference in durability between the liquid and paste?

MrDinkleman 11-26-2015 03:11 AM

My favorite is Harly Wax. It is a carnauba wax with no cleaners or abrasives. I've been using it for the last 30+ years. Goes on easy and comes off easy even if you leave it on too long. And it has a pleasant lemony smell. The last time I bought a couple cans a few years ago, it was available only online. You have me curious now; I think I will order a couple more cans...

AncientCityFRS 11-26-2015 10:03 AM

Chemical Guys XXX, great wax


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