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_j_anthony 10-26-2015 03:57 PM

Air Suspension, No Bags??? Air Cups
 
Air Cups, Air Cup kits, Coilover Lift Suspension, or bagless air suspension.

- I'm looking for more info, I don't care for your opinions if you don't know what air cups are.

- Please only ask questions about more information on the topic, otherwise if you don't know don't comment

Could anyone provide info on these systems and how their experience has been with them?
Durable in drivable winter conditions?
How do they compare vs. bags?

If you google these systems a few unknown companies come up and then.... http://www.fortune-auto.com/aircuplift.htm

http://www.fortune-auto.com/Muller%2...tem%202015.png


any info is good info...:party0030:

NyC Zn6 10-26-2015 04:14 PM

Can cups be added to any aftermarket coilover?

MisterSheep 10-26-2015 04:17 PM

@Shaun Perry I believe has a set of these.

_j_anthony 10-26-2015 07:02 PM

Yes, you can buy the cup and add to your coilovers

http://www.dsgperformance.com/assets...erformance.jpg


http://www.dsgperformance.com/Fortun...stem-Universal

Liquid6 10-26-2015 07:53 PM

all that does is lift car for speed bumps and stuff. driving will suffer as it states cause it compresses spring. if you're looking for the aired out look these are not it.

_j_anthony 10-26-2015 10:02 PM

I'm looking to lower my car to fit my wheels properly but the problem is, I'm scraping now if I don't pull out carefully.
-So using this kit will allow me to clear the speed bumps on my street and allow me to get into my driveway

Captain Snooze 10-26-2015 10:21 PM

I'd be wary of a suspension manufacturer who says "the coilover springs become compressed which increases the spring rate."

Liquid6 10-26-2015 10:21 PM

Then these will work. Just with them aired up the ride is crap. So if you just need them for what you said ..have at it.


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Gunman 10-26-2015 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 2432740)
I'd be wary of a suspension manufacturer who says "the coilover springs become compressed which increases the spring rate."

Coil bind maybe?

_j_anthony 10-28-2015 03:31 PM

the entire point to this is that you don't ride air'd up, you go higher when you need to clear something

microsteve40 10-29-2015 03:04 PM

I have the http://www.umbrellaautodesign.com/ system on my 350Z, and I love them. I don't know anything about the kit the OP posted, but with the Umbrella setup, he replaces your spring with a shorter one from Swift Springs, and uses the spring rate of your choice.

The ride feels exactly the same as your coilovers would normally. Aired all the way up, my car rides amazing, as it actually has room for the suspension to travel and for the Zeal coilovers to do their thing.

Anyway, I've had the setup on my car for over a year now. If you have any specific questions, let me know.

Here's a pic of my 350Z aired out:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psqeutmydv.jpg

kch 10-29-2015 03:23 PM

Hell, if these are reasonably priced and don't require too much trunk space, it might be worth it. I've held off on coils because of steep parking garage entrances. Seems perfect for my issue.

DustinS 10-29-2015 03:40 PM

If I remember right, it's an extra $1200? over the price of the coilovers. Plus they don't work with all cars. The FRS/BRZ kit for the Fortune autos only allow a 1" lift as there isn't enough travel for the 2".

Edit: Extra $2000 over the price of the coilovers.

microsteve40 10-29-2015 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinS (Post 2435751)
Plus they don't work with all cars. The FRS/BRZ kit for the Fortune autos only allow a 1" lift as there isn't enough travel for the 2".

What would prevent there being more than 1" of available travel?


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