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Replacement keys?

I'm looking into getting another key for my FR-S (2013 - Base) as I only have one (bought the car used from a Nissan dealership, and I am an idiot who didn't think to argue with them then) - what are the alternatives to paying the $200+ to get a second key from a local Scion dealer?

I'd be fine with a traditional key that's not synched to any of the electronics as a spare...

Suck it up and get a key from the Scion dealership. I've had non-official keys for cars before and they're god awful.

Think of the 200 dollars as a tuition for not making mistakes like that in the future.

$500+ here.... lol I won't pay that for a key. Thankfully, have 2.

Find a keysmith. Get the hook up. I had 2 made, but only for doors. I think if I try to use keysmith one for ignition, i'll brick the car due to the immobilizer. Can anyone confirm this has/can happen?
@Tcoat @humfrz @NWFRS @Ultramaroon

You guys have owned the 86 longer than I have and have more XP. I didn't find any info on this in the forums. On tablet atm.

Locksmith not keysmith****

Pretty sure it was in here, maybe the DIY section but there was a way to get a replacement for half or a quarter of what they cost at the dealer.
It was buy key from Ebay, get it cut and programmed by locksmith...something along those lines.

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Originally Posted by STZ (Post 2431714)

What kind of issues did they give you (worked some times and others they wouldn't?)? Or was it just a hassle finding one that actually worked in the end?

If it ends up looking like paying the $200+ is the only option I'll do it... Will probably just wait a little to do so as I want to build back up the spending reserves after buying winter tires / rims.

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Originally Posted by 02.ACCORD.DUDE (Post 2431702)

I'm looking into getting another key for my FR-S (2013 - Base) as I only have one (bought the car used from a Nissan dealership, and I am an idiot who didn't think to argue with them then) - what are the alternatives to paying the $200+ to get a second key from a local Scion dealer?

I'd be fine with a traditional key that's not synched to any of the electronics as a spare...

You should be able to get a blank and have it cut by a locksmith, which would open the doors ...... but not start the car.

So, if you lose your chipped key ..... you can still get into the car .... but where are you going if you can't start the car ..... ??

Like @STZ suggested, it would be good to have a spare chipped key, in case you lose or misplace the first one.

Say, you are out on the town and you get lucky. However, when you wake in a motel room the next morning, you realize she left and took your wallet and keys. If your car is still there, either she couldn't find the right car or couldn't drive a stick. With a spare key hidden under the car, you can still drive home .......... :popcorn:

humfrz

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2431731)

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Say, you are out on the town and you get lucky. However, when you wake in a motel room the next morning, you realize she left and took your wallet and keys. If your car is still there, either she couldn't find the right car or couldn't drive a stick. With a spare key hidden under the car, you can still drive home .......... :popcorn:

humfrz

That's rather detailed for a hypothetical example?

Just sayin'...

:D

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 2431718)

I looked through a few older threads but nobody really came out and said I bought X key fob and reprogrammed successfully doing Y.

I'd be willing to pay the dealer to program the fob, guess I will have to research if any of these ebay fobs are legit.

To be frank, buy some Vaseline, lube the butt, and just buy an official from the dealer.

There are probably 10 or more threads on this subject hidden in here someplace. People name the "Help Please" or "What should I do?" so they are almost un searchable. In almost ever case where somebody figured they found a way to do it cheaper they ended up spend way more time and money then if they had just gone to the dealer in the first place.
As has been said I would just bite the bullet and go to the dealer.
Pay the price, do it right, do it once. (This is going to be my new response to most things here I think)

My personal experience with replacing a key.

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Originally Posted by DM7 (Post 2021286)

This is what I did to replace one of my keys.

I ordered one on ebay from a dealership (complete key with remote). This way I could get just the blank key. $150 Best price I could find for a genuine OEM key. (Not taking chances with $20 replica junk)
Had it cut by a local locksmith. $10 - risk of the copy going wrong, then you are out $150 for a blank key.
Bought an OBDII adapter from ebay and registered the new key and fob myself. $25 - risk of bricking your ecu/car

If you are technologically inclined then try the path I went down. (it's risky)
If you are not, just pay the dealer to cut and register the new key. I'm guessing they quoted you around $250 to $300. Lower risk and pretty much guaranteed to work.

This video below shows how to do it with a key without remote buttons.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-0dSCVfRY"]2004 Toyota Sienna LE Immobilizer Key Programming - How To - YouTube[/ame]
This video came from this site: http://clubsciontc.com/forums/diy-in...new-key-27271/

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Not sure if this is well known or not but you can program a 2nd key without having to have a stealership program it and pay stealership prices. Nothing irritates me more than a dealer trying to rape you for 100-200 dollars for a key when you can buy one for 30 dollars or less and have your five year old execute the procedure. Here is the procedure I used just for informational purposes. Local Scion dealer wanted $109 and Toyota dealer wanted $98 just to program MY key.
> With you inside the car and door closed insert master key 5 times into ignition without turning it on.
>On the fifth time leave the key in the ignition and open and close the driver door six times. Immobilizer light should come on and remain on.
>Remove the master key and insert the new transponder key. Immobilizer light will begin blinking. Wait for immobilizer light to stop blinking. This might take a minute to a minute and a half
>Remove new key. Put master key in the ignition and start the car. Turn car off.
>Insert new key and and the car should start.
>Start clapping your hands due to your success and whisper under your breath " Suck it dealership". We only got one key when we purchased the used car for my son. It just seemed that I could not get another key without having the dealer program it. This is not correct. 2007 Scion tC RS3.0. It worked for me. Attempt at your own discretion. This is what the guy in the above video posted but it's in written form.

From what I see, that key he used is like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Genuine-...xTdOXk&vxp=mtr

If that key there can be programmed like he did in that video then you are just missing the remote buttons on it but it will still manually open the drivers side door or trunk and also start the car. Another possibility is to take the transponder out of the one you have and insert it close to the ignition and then any key you cut even without a transponder chip will work because that chip is in proximity of the ignition.
There are also the keys with remote buttons and immobilizer chip inside like this: http://www.fobkeyless.com/2013-2014-...-head-key.html for $180 so it seems just getting that, getting it cut, and programming it yourself might do it. Unless it is not possible and that video is somehow faked?

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Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 2431832)

To be frank, buy some Vaseline, lube the butt, and just buy an official from the dealer.

What kind of vaseline works best? :sigh:

Usually a locksmith will make a copy of a car key, sans chip, to be used as a hide a key...I easily had that done for my FRS...a dollar or two it was.

Online I've searched chipped car key and transponder car key. Seems Some Walmarts and Home Depot make such keys. Best to call a store near you, to ascertain if they make such keys for Toyota/Subaru.