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JDM Haze 11-12-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Basket Case (Post 2449136)
How has the handling ben effected by the swap? I really want to go this route, but i do't want to drift. I want the car to handle very similar to stock so that I can still enjoy twisty roads and tracking.

Thanks in advance.

I believe with the LS engine swap the front sway bar has to be removed to fit the engine, so handling isn't going to be like it is with the FA in there. I know there is a company I forgot the name that is making a sway bar for the LS swap.

Spartarus 11-12-2015 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JDM Haze (Post 2449242)
I believe with the LS engine swap the front sway bar has to be removed to fit the engine.


No. It doesn't. The reason somebody removed it in *another* swap was because it interfered with the factory oil pan on the chosen motor.

You will not have to remove the sway bar if you have a suitable oil pan.

JDM Haze 11-12-2015 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartarus (Post 2449418)
No. It doesn't. The reason somebody removed it in *another* swap was because it interfered with the factory oil pan on the chosen motor.

You will not have to remove the sway bar if you have a suitable oil pan.

Ahh ok, thanks for the correction!

Amir Ghadiri 11-13-2015 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartarus (Post 2449418)
No. It doesn't. The reason somebody removed it in *another* swap was because it interfered with the factory oil pan on the chosen motor.

You will not have to remove the sway bar if you have a suitable oil pan.

This is correct. The CX oil pan clears the factory sway bar, subframe, etc. Nothing needs to be cut or removed. The factory crossbars will even clear everything except the rearmost coil pack on the passenger side (which is easily relocated to allow mounting of the crossbar). In the 'other' swap's defense, it is ideal to have a rear sump oil pan (mine is a front sump), but a proper dry sump system (or even wet sump, although less desirable) fixes that problem (and really should be utilized anyways).

The car still drives and handles great. It is very well planted, it will go whereever you point it. I've been driving it for the past few days and it really doesn't feel any different than with the FA, it just has real power. :burnrubber:

mkivalex 12-11-2015 10:53 PM

Any other input on the CX swap kit? Thinking about pulling the trigger on it before the CDN dollar gets worse. I'd like to wait for the vorshlag kit but still haven't seen anything yet

jwvand02 12-13-2015 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Amir Ghadiri (Post 2450159)
This is correct. The CX oil pan clears the factory sway bar, subframe, etc. Nothing needs to be cut or removed. The factory crossbars will even clear everything except the rearmost coil pack on the passenger side (which is easily relocated to allow mounting of the crossbar). In the 'other' swap's defense, it is ideal to have a rear sump oil pan (mine is a front sump), but a proper dry sump system (or even wet sump, although less desirable) fixes that problem (and really should be utilized anyways).

The car still drives and handles great. It is very well planted, it will go whereever you point it. I've been driving it for the past few days and it really doesn't feel any different than with the FA, it just has real power. :burnrubber:

Whats involved from the electrical side?

Spartarus 12-14-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jwvand02 (Post 2479444)
Whats involved from the electrical side?

Standalone ECU, custom wiring for the engine, appropriate tuning.

Only CANBUS enabled ECU's with a preconfigured profile for the FRS are viable (without a ridiculous amount of extra work). That leaves you with MoTeC, Haltech, and very few others.

cf6mech 12-14-2015 05:48 PM

Can-bus integration is everything for this swap,..the steering is sluggish when its in the default mode and having the big tach on the dash to work would be nice....abs..traction control...everything else is pretty straight forward and fundamental....There are fixes in the work as we speak using stock ECU which will be.....yes... a retail product..i.e.less costly. And I'm sure others,.....because this car screams for more power that's reliable and N/A and I'm sure many will hit the streets before long....

Drift&Drag 12-15-2015 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cf6mech (Post 2480524)
Can-bus integration is everything for this swap,..the steering is sluggish when its in the default mode and having the big tach on the dash to work would be nice....abs..traction control...everything else is pretty straight forward and fundamental....There are fixes in the work as we speak using stock ECU which will be.....yes... a retail product..i.e.less costly. And I'm sure others,.....because this car screams for more power that's reliable and N/A and I'm sure many will hit the streets before long....

I am honestly surprised we do not see more LS-swapped 86s running around the streets here in Dallas.



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cf6mech 12-15-2015 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Drift&Drag (Post 2480991)
I am honestly surprised we do not see more LS-swapped 86s running around the streets here in Dallas.



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I predict we will once warranties run out and the used prices go done and more kits are available

Drift&Drag 12-15-2015 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cf6mech (Post 2481865)
I predict we will once warranties run out and the used prices go done and more kits are available

I totally agree


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cf6mech 12-15-2015 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Drift&Drag (Post 2481883)
I totally agree


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Off subject.....I sure would like to buy your differential......just don't have the cash right now......its the last weak link in my set up....have DSS drive shafts....but need your diff for a complete bullet proof drive train.

Drift&Drag 12-16-2015 03:14 PM

Come on get it bro. I'm right next to Plano lol

cf6mech 12-16-2015 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Drift&Drag (Post 2482836)
Come on get it bro. I'm right next to Plano lol

I'm in Keller.....love to....Christmas an all....hopefully you have it in a month or two....then I will.


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