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Rob_g 06-23-2012 09:17 PM

The headlights....
 
The headlights on this car make me feel a bit nervous driving at night on the highway. They just don't seem bright enough nor do they have a good forward range. The brights are ok, but obviously you can't drive with them on all the time. I kept thinking last night if there was something on the road, I wouldn't see it until it's too late. Maybe I just feel more 'vulnerable' in a smaller car?

Rob

Chewie4299 06-23-2012 09:19 PM

If you're uncomfortable at night and feel like you may hit something without the chance to stop you MAY be driving too fast at night...

I haven't driven one at night yet so take this with a grain of salt.


It's just that my Jeep's headlights SUCKED before I replaced them and any time I had that nervous feeling I knew I needed to back off the skinny pedal just a little.

Asphaltfrs1 06-23-2012 09:26 PM

Really? I'm surprised, I was thinking quite the opposite. I drove at night and thought to myself, " I guess don't need the HIDs after all"!

colHolm 06-23-2012 09:29 PM

I don't find the headlight output to be too bad but I do miss the output from my Lexus IS... My TRS bi-xenon upgrades should be here early next week, I'm sure they will help!

Mr.Jay 06-23-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob_g (Post 274967)
The headlights on this car make me feel a bit nervous driving at night on the highway. They just don't seem bright enough nor do they have a good forward range. The brights are ok, but obviously you can't drive with them on all the time. I kept thinking last night if there was something on the road, I wouldn't see it until it's too late. Maybe I just feel more 'vulnerable' in a smaller car?

Rob

I was driving at night in the rain in a more rural area and the light output wasn't enough for me. So I've been eyeballing the TRS kit as well looks stock really however I don't hear that many great things about aftermarket HID bulb life.

The TRS deal of 25% off is a killer price tho

Quote:

Originally Posted by colHolm (Post 274982)
I don't find the headlight output to be too bad but I do miss the output from my Lexus IS... My TRS bi-xenon upgrades should be here early next week, I'm sure they will help!


Please post pics! We got the same colour (no regrets) and I really like to see how the look blacked out with the kit installed!

kmbkk 06-23-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colHolm (Post 274982)
I don't find the headlight output to be too bad but I do miss the output from my Lexus IS... My TRS bi-xenon upgrades should be here early next week, I'm sure they will help!

Which kit did you buy? I may be interested in doing this as well.

Rob_g 06-23-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewie4299 (Post 274971)
If you're uncomfortable at night and feel like you may hit something without the chance to stop you MAY be driving too fast at night...

I haven't driven one at night yet so take this with a grain of salt.


It's just that my Jeep's headlights SUCKED before I replaced them and any time I had that nervous feeling I knew I needed to back off the skinny pedal just a little.

Just driving the speed limit at 110KPH. I've never had a 'nervous' feeling before in any vehicle I have driven at night on the highway, just with the FR-S. It felt like driving with dirty headlights, except they aren't dirty.

Rob

86_ZN6 06-23-2012 10:24 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...light=retrofit

colHolm 06-23-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 86_ZN6 (Post 275054)

Yup, that's the one.

WolfsFang 06-23-2012 11:44 PM

WTH 300 bucks for HIDS? Rather just buy them and install it myself, save like $200.

alexmotrix 06-24-2012 12:10 AM

What you don't understand is for 300$ you get a full motorized projector with high/low beams... Just buy two low quality ebay kit, zip-tie the fat ballast (4) anywhere in your engine bay and enjoy the look of it everytime you pop your hood...

Brett 06-24-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfsFang (Post 275220)
WTH 300 bucks for HIDS? Rather just buy them and install it myself, save like $200.

Don't just put HIDs in halogen optics. It will put more light where you don't want it, and less where you do. You need to replace the optics as well.

Chewie4299 06-24-2012 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett (Post 275251)
Don't just put HIDs in halogen optics. It will put more light where you don't want it, and less where you do. You need to replace the optics as well.

Sounds like a good analogy would be buying a high quality HD projector for a home theater system and then pointing it at your wall instead of also investing in a quality HD projection screen.

Missing half the equation.

WolfsFang 06-24-2012 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexmotrix (Post 275249)
What you don't understand is for 300$ you get a full motorized projector with high/low beams... Just buy two low quality ebay kit, zip-tie the fat ballast (4) anywhere in your engine bay and enjoy the look of it everytime you pop your hood...

where do you see motorized projectors and low/high beams?

WolfsFang 06-24-2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewie4299 (Post 275269)
Sounds like a good analogy would be buying a high quality HD projector for a home theater system and then pointing it at your wall instead of also investing in a quality HD projection screen.

Missing half the equation.

no that dosent make sense since you would be able to use the projector 100% without any problems. From what brett is saying I would be driving blind if I would to just swap HID's in.

Brett 06-24-2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewie4299 (Post 275269)
Sounds like a good analogy would be buying a high quality HD projector for a home theater system and then pointing it at your wall instead of also investing in a quality HD projection screen.

Missing half the equation.

Something like that. The light emitting surface in each type of bulb has a different shape, so you need to focus is differently to put the light where it needs to go.

Chewie4299 06-24-2012 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett (Post 275282)
Something like that. The light emitting surface in each type of bulb has a different shape, so you need to focus is differently to put the light where it needs to go.

Yea.... that's what I said too :thumbsup:

Scaldy 06-24-2012 12:43 AM

All joking aside, has anyone upgraded to SiverStar Bulbs? It made a big difference on my old Honda Fit.

dirk_diggler 06-24-2012 12:52 AM

The lame output was obvious to me when i saw the car in Arcadia a few months ago. It was clearly inferior to the projectors in my Camry. It doesn't help that the car is so low.

Bristecom 06-24-2012 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Scaldy (Post 275308)
All joking aside, has anyone upgraded to SiverStar Bulbs? It made a big difference on my old Honda Fit.

No offense but the SilverStars are way outdated. There are much better options out there now. There's a whole new class of +90 bulbs like the Philips X-treme Power, Osram Night Breaker, GE Nighthawk Platinum, or PIAA Night-Tech.

But nothing comes close to HID's. One of my requirements for a new car was HID's. I'm holding off until Scion either starts including them or there is an affordable way to swap the headlamps out with the 86.

civicdrivr 06-24-2012 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scaldy (Post 275308)
All joking aside, has anyone upgraded to SiverStar Bulbs? It made a big difference on my old Honda Fit.

I'm running SilverStar Ultras. There was a noticeable difference from stock. I'm still swapping projectors though because the optics on the stock ones are garbage.

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2

86_ZN6 06-24-2012 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfsFang (Post 275220)
WTH 300 bucks for HIDS? Rather just buy them and install it myself, save like $200.

you're not buying just bulbs and ballast here for $100

you're buying the whole b-xenon projectors

BlaineWasHere 06-24-2012 03:56 AM

FR-S lights are not nearly as good as the HIDs on my GTI.


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