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Bjeoen 10-13-2015 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2418369)
Well you just edited the first post, and based the answer to these questions that car is not the right choice for you. You won't be able to wrench on the car itself and you don't know enough about cars to know what mods @SDGT86 did or how they help the car, even though he's a trustworthy owner to buy from. Also $27K for a first car?!? If you can't maintain the modded car yourself at that price you might as well get a base manual FR-S with a full 7 year warranty, and if that is even your budget get a newer FR-S in the first place don't even look at the used car market!
While i may not be able to do work on the car myself, I have a basic understanding of what he has done to the car performance wise, and i'd like to say i am learning fairly quickly. With me lessening the amount of time i spend gaming, i have a lot more time on my hands to learn. Sorry if that fits in your perception of young car guy, not really sure if that counts.

swarb 10-13-2015 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Bjeoen (Post 2418359)
Luckily my parents will be helping me pay as my brother needs the car i'm currently driving (he is starting to learn how to drive soon). I will make sure to ask the seller a few questions.
Lucky you! :D
Yeah, just show your parents the pics. 500 miles is pretty far to go for a car. Pm the seller. Good luck!
I would buy it! it has all the stock parts included also.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 10-13-2015 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bjeoen (Post 2418374)
While i may not be able to do work on the car myself, I have a basic understanding of what he has done to the car performance wise, and i'd like to say i am learning fairly quickly. With me lessening the amount of time i spend gaming, i have a lot more time on my hands to learn. Sorry if that fits in your perception of young car guy, not really sure if that counts.
Didn't mean it offensively, but honestly you shouldn't go straight into a heavily modified car, that also you will need a tune for (I recommend open flash tablet as I love it) to possibly pass emissions. Also a young kid with a lowered FR-S? Aren't you worried about scrapping your beautiful front end on the way to school? It's honestly down to your parents though they're the final end all. It's more cost efficient to not by a modified car for you because then you get the full warranty and longevity of a newer vehicle....

humfrz 10-13-2015 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bjeoen (Post 2418366)
1. Honestly no, my friend is i just love the look of the car
2. nope
3. I was looking at the evo originally but this has better mileage and is cheaper lol. Evo is the car i had my heart set on originally. Though i'm not really sure how the frs handles 4 people in it, it seems like the better choice. (won't be driving 4 people that much usually just me as daily driver)
Well, now, @Bjeoen ....... after you presented additional information ..... I just don't feel that car is for you.

* for 27,000 you can buy a brand new FR-S

* modding (personalizing) your own car is half the fun

* the "passenger" back seat in a FR-S is only for very small children, that can sit on their legs ..... and only for short distances

Good on ya ..... :)


humfrz

FRSBRZGT86FAN 10-13-2015 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2418382)
Well, now, @Bjeoen ....... after you presented additional information ..... I just don't feel that car is for you.

* for 27,000 you can buy a brand new FR-S

* modding (personalizing) your own car is half the fun

* the "passenger" back seat in a FR-S is only for very small children, that can sit on their legs ..... and only for short distances

Good on ya ..... :)


humfrz
Important to mention to @Bjeoen the rear seats were an insurance afterthought in our cars, I had a friend's nephew in the car and his feet would've needed to be cut off to fit my friend comfortably in the passenger seat cause he's so tall and we had to use the little guys booster seat so the little one could sit comfortably too:lol: Also with this car people are drawn to "high speed" rides as well hehehe....

@Bjeoen
Alsofor the sakeof telling you how similar we are age wise to all my friends are in the 17-22 year old range me being in the end of that range. We own of course FR-S, one my friends has a 350z, another an e36 m3, another an s2000, and another who's lurking on this forum also has an FR-S. I have a feeling you're counting your eggs way before they hatch and getting into the aura of really wanting a certain car out of the box regardless of what someone says just because it looks cool, especially when you aren't really knowledgeable about what you might have to delve into. Take it from this forum if you're spending your parents money and your own money, you and your parents investment would be better spent in a newer car with a warranty.

xuimod 10-13-2015 05:58 AM
Beware of cars with aftermarket headers. That's a very common mod and it gives a small performance boost but aftermarket headers throw up CEL's like crazy. As a new owner of a used car that would drive you nuts.

STZ 10-13-2015 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bjeoen (Post 2418366)
1. Honestly no, my friend is i just love the look of the car
2. nope
3. I was looking at the evo originally but this has better mileage and is cheaper lol. Evo is the car i had my heart set on originally. Though i'm not really sure how the frs handles 4 people in it, it seems like the better choice. (won't be driving 4 people that much usually just me as daily driver)
You may want to reconsider. First off, buying that car is pretty much the same price as getting one brand new from the dealership, and if you're not experienced with this stuff that's the "safer" route. Second off, the linked car has a lot of mods. If you don't really know what you're doing I wouldn't buy a modded car. Another reason is that modding it yourself is what makes it fun and personal.

In addition to that, in general a reason that I think you should reconsider is that as you have said, you have no knowledge about the twins and only like how it appears aesthetically. It would suck if you bought the car and then became upset a week later when a Toyota Camry smokes you at a red. Make sure you understand what the car is about and why you want it instead of regretting it later when you find out you're a muscle car guy.

Even if your parents are paying for it, don't act like they are. Instead, do your research and make sure this is exactly what you want and act as if you would have to pay 30 grand out of your own pocket that you had to work for.

Do your research!!

Personally, I'm holding off buying one until the supposed 2017 face-lift and possibly waiting for another special Scion edition that comes with stock HID.

Hotrodheart 10-13-2015 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bjeoen (Post 2418340)
Hi I'm looking to purchase a used frs off this forum and i've tried to use the search function but can't find the answers. My parents don't really know much about what i'm asking either so since it seems like i'm pretty bad at using the search function i'll straight up ask them here.

Some of these questions may seem basic, but i really have no clue of what i'm doing this will be the first car I've owned (currently drive parents car).

1. I should get the car checked out by a shop (third party) or something before purchasing right?

2. Is there a list of optimal things to do after buying the car? I mean like clear bra or something not mods.

3. How do mods affect warranty, the one i'm looking at doesn't seem to have anything too serious done to it like a turbo or supercharged.

4. Also how does dealership warranty or something work when i get it from another user from this forum?

I think that is it for now i really hope this isn't out of place.

Link for people to help me more accurately: I'm looking into this car http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95741 Is the fender liner crack a problem?
Ok, I'll admit I didn't read all the responses in the thread, so if I'm repeating anything, I'm sorry.


Save yourself some grief and shop for an FR-S that is at a Toyota/Scion dealership, and make sure it's CERTIFED. That will bring you a warranty, and you can be reasonably sure the car is in good shape. And there will be no great need to have the car inpected by a third party. And if it's certified, it probably will not be modded. That's what you want. I avoid modded performance cars like the plague. And if it's certified, if something goes bad, you have the backing of Toyota to resolve any issues.


You'll pay more than if you buy off craigslist, or private ads, etc. It'll be the best money you ever spent.


And don't buy any Canadian cars!


HRH

soulreapersteve 10-13-2015 07:14 AM
If I was in your shoes (and I was earlier this year), I would buy a stock FRS or BRZ. Depending on the route you take, you'll have to shell out a couple hundred for a tune to get rid of the CELs - as others above me have mentioned. It's also heavily modded.

Even if you know nothing about cars, such as myself when I bought the car, you can learn! It does take time but if you like learning something new, do buy an unmolested Twin and mod to your heart's content.

What turned me away from buying a used Twin was not knowing how it was treated. Was it gently puttered around town or tossed in backroads (like my car). Since I'm planning on keeping the car until it becomes a rust bucket, I bought new knowing I'm the only owner.

Cole 10-13-2015 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 2418350)
Welcome, first off all of these cars that are for sale here are used. So getting that out of the way lets go down the list.
1. If you or your parents are not car savy, you should take it to a trustworthy car guy/mechanic. Now that also goes if the seller wants his car to be looked over by some dude. Usually if the car or the peer has nothing to hide they will give the ok.

2. That all depends on the condition of the car. Usually tires would be on the list to replace.
Second a tune up wouldn't hurt. Depending on the condition. A clear bra would be a good idea, but if it has chip dents already eh, it's your call.

3. Anything besides fluids, filers, and carb legal stuff will void the warranty. That chrome cold air intake, and that catless straight pipe will void it.

4. This comes full circle, depending on how "new" or how low miles you get it, the car might still be under warranty. Usually most of the cars for sale have gone beyond their factory warranty. Now if the owner bought the extended warranty it could be transferred. I would contact the dealership along with the current owner that the car is being sold and all warranties would be valid.

That being said you should first talk to your insurance company to see how much your going to get ass pounded. These cars are considered "high performance sport car."
So if it's still with in your budget go for it. If not you can find another cheaper (older) sports car.
I'm going to disagree with the insurance thing. My premium went up by 200 per year, and that was coming from an early 2000's sedan. Hardly a large increase for a brand new high performance car

Tcoat 10-13-2015 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2418416)
I'm going to disagree with the insurance thing. My premium went up by 200 per year, and that was coming from an early 2000's sedan. Hardly a large increase for a brand new high performance car
Yes. There are many factors that go into what the car will cost for insurance and the actual car is only a very small part of that. My insurance went up a staggering $6 a year when I got mine.

Mr.ac 10-13-2015 10:29 AM
Well that insurance is really depending on location. You Canadians have the best pricing out there. Now given the same age and driving history but living in Los Angels that costs more. Way more.

Braces 10-13-2015 11:09 AM
OP,

As mentioned above ... For that money ... You can buy a new twin for peace of mind. But if you really want this car I would suggest doing some research 1st. Find out if your local Scion dealership is mod friendly. If not ... you'll need to locate a local independent shop that can help you with any mod issues. Good luck.

86geek 10-13-2015 02:29 PM
IMHO good comments/advice given. OP get a FRS locally from where you live as mentioned by a dealer. Less headache with piece of mind. Buy stock and build your mods on your own.

As my late grandfather once told me when I wanted to buy a brand new 1981 Toyota SR5 Corolla Liftback, "Eh, the car will always be there, go work and buy it on your own".....I did but bought a used one. ;)


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