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Hachiroku 02-15-2011 01:55 PM

Toyota Officially Registers "86" Trademark
 
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Here is the latest installment in the FT-86 naming saga. The question all along has been "What will Toyota call the production version of the FT-86?" Will it retain the FT-86 badge? Will it even be badged as a Toyota (rather than a Scion)?

If this trademark is to be any indication, it shows that the car's production name may retain the "86" portion of the concept car's name. Filed by Toyota on December 23, 2010, the trademark shows that Toyota was or is serious enough about retaining "86" in the name to trademark a logo.

This is the same stylized 86 which we saw in the center of a bigger logo late last year. That larger logo showed a cross section of a boxer engine, featuring one horizontally opposed piston on each side and the now trademarked number 86 logo inserted in the center where the crankshaft would be.

Toyota's "86" trademark filing: http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/tm/t-os/...demark=2567820


Trademarked logo:

Attachment 1251


Previously revealed logo:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...5&d=1293119026



Trademark Registration:

Attachment 1252

4agze 02-15-2011 02:13 PM

I like the Previous logo

mettler 02-15-2011 02:44 PM

I just read yesterday on Autoblog that this was going to be a Scion.

no_name 02-15-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mettler (Post 26340)
I just read yesterday on Autoblog that this was going to be a Scion.

It could still be called the Scion 86. It fits with the rest of their 2 character naming scheme.

DantKR 02-15-2011 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mettler (Post 26340)
I just read yesterday on Autoblog that this was going to be a Scion.

Autoblog also said the Subaru version was going to be AWD...

They're months behind.

RobStar86 02-15-2011 03:14 PM

Maybe I missed it, but did someone see this?

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/tm/t-os/...demark=2550743

Trademark for "Toyota 86" for "Automobiles and structural parts thereof."

Interesting....

Demon.cH 02-15-2011 03:22 PM

Subaru's name for the car?
 
I found this name on the same page:

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/t-find-number?...emark=E9226101

Could be the name for their car:

Subaru 2000 RS


can't find anything about it @ google
publication date is november 2010.
anyone ever heard about it?

toper 02-15-2011 03:24 PM

^ are those for usdm though?

A-Spike 02-15-2011 03:26 PM

Toyota 86? Not bad.

jay4prez 02-15-2011 04:12 PM

quick google search for "structural parts thereof, automobile" turned up the below page.


http://www.trademarkia.com/company-t...51320-page-1-2

And LOOK its TOYOTA.

Scroll down about 1 page and you'll also see the "Supra" name, so all is pointing towards 86 in the name of the vehicle, or at least some kind of designation

So being that now, they can choose to mix and match, say a "86 FR-S(Sport?)

But the 86 newly trademarked is definitely a Logo Toyota wants to lock down.

I wouldn't mind seeing that logo in the steering wheel, of course darkened, and or possibly etched in black leather or similar.

cyde01 02-15-2011 04:26 PM

of course it's toyota? scion and lexus are brands, but they're not companies.

AaronCompNetSys 02-15-2011 04:43 PM

Wow, I didn't know they were taking the boxer part so serious. I like.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demon.cH (Post 26344)
Subaru 2000 RS

It will never happen, but I like it.

Midship Runabout 02-15-2011 04:43 PM

It would be kinda cool if that logo replaced the toyota logos. Kind of like the impalas do.... maybe

Franisco 02-15-2011 04:52 PM

Agree^ I like the new one a bit more than the one with the pistons. The first one is too big

Paul 02-15-2011 06:28 PM

No boxer pistons on the logo, maybe that's so they can bring out the inline 4 or 6 version. Maybe I WILL get one now.

BanningFT 02-15-2011 06:50 PM

Likely going to See a Europe Toyota, Scion US thing happening here. It saves them cost but pisses us off.

ichitaka05 02-15-2011 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demon.cH (Post 26344)
I found this name on the same page:

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/t-find-number?...emark=E9226101

Could be the name for their car:

Subaru 2000 RS


can't find anything about it @ google
publication date is november 2010.
anyone ever heard about it?

Maybe their testing car? We have seen the Subaru testing car running in the Nur several time.

iff2mastamatt 02-15-2011 07:23 PM

I could see this as a side logo on the car, like the "5.0" on the new 5.0L Mustangs.
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/...11_50L_lfq.jpg

Matador 02-15-2011 07:53 PM

I'd prefer it had a real name rather than any alpha numeric bullshit, but at this point I'd be happy as long as it stayed a Toyota rather than a Scion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BanningFT (Post 26357)
Likely going to See a Europe Toyota, Scion US thing happening here. It saves them cost but pisses us off.

What does the hell it saves in cost exactly?

Jordo! 02-15-2011 08:16 PM

I thought latest report was that is would be badged "FT-S" and under the Scion brand in the US.

70NYD 02-15-2011 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 26356)
No boxer pistons on the logo, maybe that's so they can bring out the inline 4 or 6 version. Maybe I WILL get one now.

... seriously? did you really miss the point of why this will be a boxer??
cccc
on a positive note, this could eliminate the scion vs toyota debate.. if all of them have the 86 badge only, and no toyota or scion hehe

Dark 02-15-2011 08:46 PM

They should use this badge instead of Toyota badge. It reminds me of Altezza if they do so.

dalli 02-15-2011 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70NYD (Post 26364)
... seriously? did you really miss the point of why this will be a boxer??
cccc
on a positive note, this could eliminate the scion vs toyota debate.. if all of them have the 86 badge only, and no toyota or scion hehe

To all:

Would you still buy a scion if it had that 86 logo on it instead of scion logo? (talking about the ft 86)

Dimman 02-15-2011 09:45 PM

I've said this before, I think the 86 logo is a bit tacky and won't age well.

On a side note, I'm curious what the actual chassis code will be. They go all retro with the 86, but what if people start calling it by its Subaru or Toyota chassis code which is totally different?

And if they actually incorporate 86 into its chassis code it will feel super-contrived...

Quote:

Originally Posted by BanningFT (Post 26357)
Likely going to See a Europe Toyota, Scion US thing happening here. It saves them cost but pisses us off.

No. It increases costs. How can selling two different vehicles, marketing campaigns for two different targets, through two different dealer networks, save money?

It saved Toyota and Subaru (two mostly separate companies) development costs, but having Toyota split marketing, sales and delivery doesn't save money.

cyde01 02-15-2011 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 26373)
On a side note, I'm curious what the actual chassis code will be.

highly doubt they will use AE because it's completely unrelated to the corolla now.

If the new IS is gonna be based off the same platform, then XE33?

Dimman 02-15-2011 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 26376)
highly doubt they will use AE because it's completely unrelated to the corolla now.

If the new IS is gonna be based off the same platform, then XE33?

Well the A is for the A-series motor which is long gone. So it may start with FB, unless things get complicated and Toyota gives the boxer a different code to match their nomenclature.

And Subarus typically use two letters (I don't know what the numbers are for in Subarus). I know GC is first gen Impreza coupe. But I don't know what the 8 in GC8 is for.

Will be interesting to find out how this turns out, but I'm betting neither will have '86' in it... So will it really be an 86?

Chokonen888 02-15-2011 11:46 PM

I still hope they go with "Sprinter" or "Celica" for the name. Gives it more feeling. Not a fan of the whole number/letter naming. They can do what they want with the chassis code but I'd guess they'll still go with something like "F[]-86"

40flash 02-16-2011 12:03 AM

I don't care what they call it. Just sell me one.:wub:

ichitaka05 02-16-2011 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 26377)
And Subarus typically use two letters (I don't know what the numbers are for in Subarus). I know GC is first gen Impreza coupe. But I don't know what the 8 in GC8 is for.

LOL It's all good, a lot of ppl don't know exact meaning of GC8 is anyways. First thing first, GC is technically a Sedan. Here's the door chassis code

Sedan: GC
Coupe: GM
Wagon: GF

Secondly, 8 is the engine type in the car. Here's the list

2 = 1.8L
4 = 2.2L
6 = 2.5L
8 = 2.0L turbo

For an example: My car would be GM6. GM for coupe, 6 for engine type.

...and if you wanna go more in depth, there's more letter/numbers after that. Bunta's (Ini-D) car is GM8F28D... but who's asking. lol

Hope that helped

uplinkhack 02-16-2011 08:35 AM

Celica 86? Anyway at first glance the logo looks like BS to me. Anyone felt that same :bonk:

mkxr 02-16-2011 10:41 AM

Maybe they will use it on the wheels, small badge on center of every wheel. Nice to see some things moving forward, we just may see this car in production after all :p

OldSkoolToys 02-16-2011 01:13 PM

I thought it was -confirmed- this thing was going to be a Scion in the U.S.? Or is that still speculation?

Like I've said before, the badging matters little to me. I mean, if comes branded as an 86, that shit will stay on the car because I like it, but any and all Scion badges are being removed, with possibly -TOYOTA- badge being placed on the front grill, if I can make it look right.

Siriusly.Andrew 02-16-2011 03:43 PM

It was never set in stone weather it would be a Scion or Toyota.

To me, its a Toyota 110%.

Fucking Scion lol.

dalli 02-16-2011 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkxr (Post 26390)
Maybe they will use it on the wheels, small badge on center of every wheel. Nice to see some things moving forward, we just may see this car in production after all :p

+1

NESW20 02-16-2011 06:11 PM

it's all stupid bullshit speculation. nothing is confirmed.

WhatIs86For 02-16-2011 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NESW20 (Post 26411)
it's all stupid bullshit speculation. nothing is confirmed.

I agree with that. +1

Matador 02-16-2011 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark (Post 26367)
They should use this badge instead of Toyota badge. It reminds me of Altezza if they do so.

All JDM models have their own badge. The Soarer and MR2 badges are quite awesome.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 26376)
If the new IS is gonna be based off the same platform, then XE33?

Highly doubt it will be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 26377)
Well the A is for the A-series motor which is long gone. So it may start with FB, unless things get complicated and Toyota gives the boxer a different code to match their nomenclature.

Highly likely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siriusly.Andrew (Post 26397)
It was never set in stone weather it would be a Scion or Toyota.

To me, its a Toyota 110%.

Fucking Scion lol.

This.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NESW20 (Post 26411)
it's all stupid bullshit speculation. nothing is confirmed.


And definitely this.





























http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/...21728dae31.jpg

FTW?

OldSkoolToys 02-17-2011 02:03 PM

http://www.banpei.net/files/trueno_emblem_1.jpg

FTW

enc0re 02-17-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 26393)
Like I've said before, the badging matters little to me. I mean, if comes branded as an 86, that shit will stay on the car because I like it, but any and all Scion badges are being removed, with possibly -TOYOTA- badge being placed on the front grill, if I can make it look right.

Yes. God yes! That's a great idea. I'm gonna steal it. (The idea, not your car).

dookie11 02-23-2011 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uplinkhack (Post 26389)
Celica 86? Anyway at first glance the logo looks like BS to me. Anyone felt that same :bonk:

+1.


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