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guanqi89 10-02-2015 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2408770)
@guanqi89, in case you missed this ...... ;)


humfrz

fair point, just clear things up. mostly daily, weekend twisty roads, AX or track 5-6 times a year

Alltezza 10-02-2015 06:22 PM

Shit my fat ass needs to lose some weight D;

humfrz 10-02-2015 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by guanqi89 (Post 2408826)
fair point, just clear things up. mostly daily, weekend twisty roads, AX or track 5-6 times a year

Well, OK now ...... in that case, I would recommend an after-market muffler (to give it some growl), a drop-in, free-er flowing air filter (just for giggles) and a different set of tires.

There ya go, easy and relatively economical.......:)


humfrz

RustySocket 10-02-2015 10:58 PM

If your not sure exactly what direction you want to go I'd purchase a used OFT and start with an E85 Tune if you have a local source. It's cheap, it will help with the butt dyno and should you decide you want to go a different direction you can sell the OFT for zero loss provided you don't overpay. I got a screaming deal late at night within minutes of the device being listed, but they routinely sell used on the forums for 400-450$. Look at the for sale posts, they don't sit around long.


Until I go FI at a later date (or sell the car) this made all the difference in the world for me.


I've purchased a few other items for cosmetic reasons but the OFT was the best bang for buck I've done.


Like yourself I happen to like the handling of the car, and other than for cosmetics I can't drive the car at the limit of the stock tires to justify changing them out at this point.

totopo 10-02-2015 11:14 PM

go for 16" wheels. Light weight and faster. tire tech has advanced. low profile doesn't do you that much anymore.

cjd 10-02-2015 11:44 PM

Look at STX builds. If you're not intending to race, you can do some other bits but my car is close to your list, though it's not 50hp peak power, just maybe 50 in the torque dip (and without a full custom tune yet, that's probably not there)

-100lbs? (battery, header, AP Sprint, wallet) and light wheels (TC105N), size plus wheel/tire bring weight back up, but it's 5-20lbs less than many run so I count it
Solid bolt on power (Nameless header, full exhaust, grimmspeed intake, tune)
Handling that's a few steps up (Tein SRC, proper alignment, tires)

If I were tracking I'd take the weight hit for an oil cooler. If I weren't AutoXing I'd go E85.

Car still gets the OK from my wife for road trips and is sooooo much fun.

C

olsonpg 10-03-2015 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 2408501)
you want a 40% power increase that is modest and without a turbo and you want more grip without compromising the cars lack of grip? its probably best to stop seeking arbitrary goals and drive the car until you can identify the deficiency. its not about what you want the car to be. focus on what you want it to do and the mods you need will become abundantly clear.

-He's been driving the car since march. 7 Months is MORE than enough for someone to realize what they want out of their car...

-50 HP without a turbo is definitely attainable, i did with an ACE header front pipe overpipe and e85 with a good tune.

-and isn't modding the process of changing the car to EXACTLY what you want the car to be?

You tell this man to focus on what he wants to do and the mods will become abundantly clear- I think he knows exactly what he wants to achieve and now hes figuring out exactly what he wants to do - with our help.. and hopefully without getting pounced for some good questions.

WNDSRFR 10-03-2015 11:08 AM

If you want to gain 50 HP and get rid of the torque dip, then the easiest fastest and cheapest way to go is the Phantom Electric Supercharger. It works great.
The only problem is the waiting list is over a year long.

strat61caster 10-03-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by olsonpg (Post 2409245)
for some good questions.

Debatable, these are obvious questions with hundreds of pages of answers and discussion that is easily searchable, hell you don't even have to search, just hit the engine/FI/suspension/track sections of this forum, spend a few hours reading the stickies and posts made over the past two months or so and you're set.

wireman957 10-03-2015 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2409396)
...spend a few hours reading the stickies and posts made over the past two months or so and you're set.

I've found so much to read since I joined this forum a few months ago that I feel like I have OTHER people's grease under my nails. Still so much to learn, but due to this forum I feel like I understand this car better than almost any other car I've owned.

fatoni 10-03-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by olsonpg (Post 2409245)
-He's been driving the car since march. 7 Months is MORE than enough for someone to realize what they want out of their car...

-50 HP without a turbo is definitely attainable, i did with an ACE header front pipe overpipe and e85 with a good tune.

-and isn't modding the process of changing the car to EXACTLY what you want the car to be?

You tell this man to focus on what he wants to do and the mods will become abundantly clear- I think he knows exactly what he wants to achieve and now hes figuring out exactly what he wants to do - with our help.. and hopefully without getting pounced for some good questions.

not really. i mean, if he knew what he wanted, why would he be asking us?

DAEMANO 10-14-2015 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WNDSRFR (Post 2409261)
If you want to gain 50 HP and get rid of the torque dip, then the easiest fastest and cheapest way to go is the Phantom Electric Supercharger. It works great.
The only problem is the waiting list is over a year long.

:word:

Me = 233 WHP / 207 WTQ - Phantom ESC + OFT on e85 + UEL.
Stock = 160 WHP / 135 WTQ - Stock + CBE on same dyno
Diff = +73 WHP / 73 WTQ

Cost = less than $3000 + self install (2 hrs Phantom ESC + 1.5 hrs UEL)


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