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Newtothegrounds 09-13-2015 01:01 PM

Good comparison
 
A good shake down with the twins holding there own.

https://youtu.be/cLPxgW71k4c

humfrz 09-13-2015 01:27 PM

Interesting, thanks for posting.

I just wonder how he got 38 MPG from the FR-S ...... ??


humfrz

PabloN 09-13-2015 01:46 PM

He said it was based on highway cruising. I've gotten close to 36 mpg in steady driving (averaged over 3 tankfuls). Also he used the onboard mpg display which in my experience adds about 1.5 mpg.

why? 09-13-2015 01:47 PM

Yea if you go all highways and run it at 1500 rpm's in 6th I bet you will get sensational gas mileage.

NWFRS 09-13-2015 01:59 PM

Pretty cool they were able to hold their own.




:D

Rampage 09-13-2015 02:02 PM

He dissed the automatic FR-S for less fun to drive but the interior shots showed that the one he was in was an auto. Maybe that is where his mileage numbers came from.

campy 09-13-2015 05:51 PM

"If you get the automatic FRS, the gearing is changed to be less aggressive and adds a little bit of weight, and pretty much ruins the experience"

Ouch lol. I'm a long time fan of Engineering Explained. He really does his homework on the cars he reviews, and he has great videos about automotive engineering. You can tell he really knows what he's talking about.

strat61caster 09-13-2015 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by campy (Post 2388918)
I'm a long time fan of Engineering Explained. He really does his homework on the cars he reviews, and he has great videos about automotive engineering. You can tell he really knows what he's talking about.

I'm a little baffled at how he equated steering feel to vehicle weight...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 2388749)
He dissed the automatic FR-S for less fun to drive but the interior shots showed that the one he was in was an auto. Maybe that is where his mileage numbers came from.

He explicitly said he did the 38mpg in a MT BRZ and had a few shots of him shifting it sprinkled through there.

ToySub1946 09-13-2015 06:30 PM

Wow, he's so incredibly hyperactive...fortunately he doesn't live under my roof.

Please, oh please loan me that BRZ which gets 38.1 mpg. Mine has never, ever gotten anything close to that.
Oh, I've figured it out now. His BRZ must have been a different color than my car...thus way better mpg.

I do agree with him, it's the car for me, being as though I don't give a shit what others think...never have for that matter.

I need a nap now, after listening to him...maybe I'll get great mileage whilst my FRS is garaged during that nap.

why? 09-13-2015 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by campy (Post 2388918)
"If you get the automatic FRS, the gearing is changed to be less aggressive and adds a little bit of weight, and pretty much ruins the experience"

Ouch lol. I'm a long time fan of Engineering Explained. He really does his homework on the cars he reviews, and he has great videos about automotive engineering. You can tell he really knows what he's talking about.

And yet he came up with that baloney. Somehow sounds like he never even tried manual mode on the AT at all. Which is really odd, as it is really hard to miss that if you do any research on the AT 86.

And I really really hate the whole, "watch me blab while I drive thing." It is so stupid and someday I know one of these people will get into an accident while they are recording. Honestly I thought the video was rather bad, and mentioning all that crap about usefulness when the video was suppose to be about fun to drive is dumb. At least he admits it is stupid at the end.

swpbrz 09-14-2015 08:32 PM

I hate to break it to you. But my girlfriend has an auto FRS and i have a manual BRZ. There is a very noticeable difference between the gearing. If im in 2nd going around a turn it is waaaaay easier to bring the back end out then when im in the auto FRS. Paddles help, but when they are both in the same gear there is still a big difference. I drive them both almost every day and its definitly there and definitly makes the auto way less peppy. Still fun, but there is way different gearing. 6th gear in the manual going 70 is like 3kish rpms and 2kish in the auto. Its a significantly different gearing ratio.

dratom 09-15-2015 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swpbrz (Post 2390265)
I hate to break it to you. But my girlfriend has an auto FRS and i have a manual BRZ. There is a very noticeable difference between the gearing. ... Its a significantly different gearing ratio.


True. Eg 5th gear manual is the same as 4th auto (1:1)

Kaotic Lazagna 09-15-2015 09:20 PM

The automatic is geared differently, which is why it gets better mpg than the manual. I've also felt the difference in acceleration between the automatic and manual. One advantage of working at a dealership. Haha

why? 09-16-2015 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swpbrz (Post 2390265)
I hate to break it to you. But my girlfriend has an auto FRS and i have a manual BRZ. There is a very noticeable difference between the gearing. If im in 2nd going around a turn it is waaaaay easier to bring the back end out then when im in the auto FRS. Paddles help, but when they are both in the same gear there is still a big difference. I drive them both almost every day and its definitly there and definitly makes the auto way less peppy. Still fun, but there is way different gearing. 6th gear in the manual going 70 is like 3kish rpms and 2kish in the auto. Its a significantly different gearing ratio.

so what you are saying is the automatic is more useful in the real world for daily driving.


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