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BMWDavid 06-21-2012 10:15 PM

Hard shifting into 2nd gear when cold
 
Anyone notice hard/notchy shifting into 2nd gear when driving off in the morning?

I can start car and move shift lever through all gears effortlessly in the garage first thing before moving off. But when its time to shift into 2nd going down the street it is rather balky.

After gearbox warms up a few miles it shifts great.

F1point4 06-21-2012 10:29 PM

On my FR-S it does this. Very notchy, audible gear change. Does go away after driving it a bit. I think the reason cause the transmission fluid isn't warm yet.

Indestruct 06-21-2012 10:35 PM

I have this problem too, very notchy. I like to shift w/out pressure, but when second is giving me problems i'll just force it in lol.

Lighting Red 06-21-2012 10:46 PM

I haven't noticed it... But that's mainly due to me not having the car yet. :D

Asphaltfrs1 06-21-2012 11:50 PM

Usually 1st is the one that gives me trouble. Sometimes it feels like it doesn't want to go in. So I move it to 2nd and back to 1st. That seems to work.

speedracer38 06-22-2012 12:42 AM

2nd is extremely tough to shift into while the car is cold....it takes about 5-10 seconds to shift because I don't want to force it into gear and I am very gentle on it until the car is warmed up. I usually put it in neutral after i get up to speed in 1st then release the clutch, then clutch in and gently put the car into 2nd when it's cold and the car seems to like that more then going straight from 1 - 2 quickly. Try it out I hope it helps you as well!

cwik 06-22-2012 02:17 AM

I'm definitely noticing this too. I called up my dealership, and they said I could schedule a ride with one of their service people so explain the problem, but I was worried the car would warm up by the time I got to the dealership. The fact that others are seeing this too makes me feel a bit better.

The main reason I started to panic immediately is because my brother owned a '93 Eclipse, and getting into 2nd gear (from 1st or 3rd) was awful (it was actually the opposite of the BRZ, where it was perfect when the car was cold, but acted up once warmed... far worse :P). It would always resist, it would crunch and grind, etc. The only thing that seemed to help was to double clutch, and that didn't even work all of the time.

As long as it doesn't get worse than what it is, I'm fine with how my BRZ acts.

dietz 06-22-2012 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedracer38 (Post 271811)
2nd is extremely tough to shift into while the car is cold....it takes about 5-10 seconds to shift because I don't want to force it into gear and I am very gentle on it until the car is warmed up. I usually put it in neutral after i get up to speed in 1st then release the clutch, then clutch in and gently put the car into 2nd when it's cold and the car seems to like that more then going straight from 1 - 2 quickly. Try it out I hope it helps you as well!

AKA double clutching. I'm not good at it, but I noticed today that it makes the 1-2 shift butter smooth when cold.

BMWDavid 06-22-2012 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dietz (Post 271983)
AKA double clutching. I'm not good at it, but I noticed today that it makes the 1-2 shift butter smooth when cold.


+1, I'll try this as well.

Enemies 06-22-2012 06:49 AM

I thought I just sucked but 1st and 2nd gear can sometimes be a bit rough. 3rd and above always seems great. 2nd definitely by far is the worst though.

#87 06-22-2012 07:15 AM

hmm I always thought if you can't find it, grind it ^_^

blalor 06-22-2012 07:23 AM

I'm noticing the exact same thing. It's difficult to do the 1-2 shift most of the time when cold. It seems to get better after driving for a bit. First is also finicky. I'm considering changing the fluid when I finally get to 1,000 miles.

Lighting Red 06-22-2012 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #87 (Post 272340)
hmm I always thought if you can't find it, grind it ^_^

That technique is reserved for women, you have to treat your car better than that.

BMWDavid 06-22-2012 07:46 AM

As I replied a bit earlier I will try the double clutch method. Was wondering if a trans lube change would help? Perhaps a different brand than OEM? I see a thread on the lube, oils section that deals with this but no one has actually tried a different fluid yet.


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