Originally Posted by IBill4You (Post 2370299)

are you guys really arguing about 12 whp?

Originally Posted by IBill4You (Post 2370301)

How much time did you spend dyno testing and writing that blog to determine that Visconti's claims were off by 12 whp?

Originally Posted by Rabbit of Caerbonnog (Post 2370305)

There was a pissing match between him and another tuner on FB last weekend in regards to who's the worst tuner. Obviously, Vis. was the one who pulled the first sucker punch on the other tuner.

Originally Posted by IBill4You (Post 2370446)

I understand the purpose of your efforts, but 12 whp is a waste of time in and of itself no matter what mods you're using. Now E85 on a FI 86 is worth the time. As a tuner running a business, I can't even imagine wanting to waste my time on tuning something for 12 whp, when you could be working on FI tunes or built engines.

Originally Posted by Rabbit of Caerbonnog (Post 2370435)

I need to edit the screenshots of the pissing match. Covering up 3rd party's names and pictures. Also, the post was deleted by the group moderators. I'll post an imgur link once I'm back from a meeting.

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Originally Posted by IBill4You (Post 2370446)

I understand the purpose of your efforts, but 12 whp is a waste of time in and of itself no matter what mods you're using. Now E85 on a FI 86 is worth the time. As a tuner running a business, I can't even imagine wanting to waste my time on tuning something for 12 whp, when you could be working on FI tunes or built engines.

Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2370548)

Wait. Is that comparing a stock tune to an E85 tune? What's a 93 tune vs. an E85 tune look like?

Originally Posted by VitViper (Post 2370573)

The car was fully tuned on pump, and then retuned on E85. There is no stock tune anywhere.

Originally Posted by VitViper (Post 2370511)

Sounds like a good time, lol.



On the shop Coyote (11-14 Mustang GT) 17-18whp was gained with E85 and it is worth about 2mph in trap speed.

Waste of time is all relative, the Stillen intakes I tried out on the car actually lost power without a tune (and not due to the fueling -- VVEL mapping had to be redone completely), and after retuning we got minor gains. The gains from retuning on different fuel was greater than the intakes by a large margin. It wasn't some great effort, the car spent an hour on the dyno and I took a break from the normal daily routine to relax.

And the car is N/A, you're peeling onions to make power N/A. People are paying me to squeeze 5hp out of certain mods lol.

On the other hand, tuning isn't just a business. It's something I enjoy doing and something that's been a passion of mine for over a decade. I enjoy changing parts around and seeing the effects on the motor and tune. Sometimes figuring out how a new ECU works (the magic in the background no one really ever thinks about) is downright frustrating and sometimes it's simple -- but in either situation it's rewarding when I do figure it out. Some people enjoy under water basket weaving, I enjoy tuning, lol.

Originally Posted by VitViper (Post 2371783)

Once the weather cools off and it starts raining I'll have more time to play.

Mid September I'll be testing out the Edelbrock kit. We have it coming with the standard pulley, the 3.0 and the 2.75.

Yes my car is still getting a turbo kit built for it, I have 3 intercooler cores and tons of manifold piping already waiting to get fabbed, because turbo > *, lol. But I like to tinker too much to just do one thing and leave the car alone. So what that spells for someone local, is a really good deal on an Edelbrock kit when I'm done tinkering, lol.

Originally Posted by thehapaone (Post 2371868)

I call dibs

Originally Posted by thehapaone (Post 2371868)

I call dibs

Originally Posted by Decay107 (Post 2371935)

Originally Posted by Decay107 (Post 2371935)

Originally Posted by sachu (Post 2372121)

brown folk bring jihad and suicide vests....no puny fisticuffs!!

Originally Posted by thehapaone (Post 2372114)

Originally Posted by sachu (Post 2372121)

brown folk bring jihad and suicide vests....no puny fisticuffs!!

Originally Posted by Decay107 (Post 2372139)

Excuse me, this is how we fight in 'murica
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