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GSpeed 08-19-2015 06:51 PM

TESTED- Perrin Master Cylinder Brace
 
We had a spare analog input, a spare shock pot, a Perrin master cylinder brace, and some time to kill. Let's find out if it actually works!

First thing we did was mount a shock pot horizontally in line with the master cylinder:

http://i.imgur.com/OqKAQjV.jpg

Interestingly enough, we had marginal deflection. On the order of a few thousandths of an inch. Watching it, we noticed the master cylinder was actually deflecting upwards, not forward like you'd think. It rotates around a point on the firewall, roughly, so that the end is pushed upwards. So we got a little creative with some machining measurement fixtures, and wound up with this:

http://i.imgur.com/YTmhUyS.jpg

Despite the angle of the picture, the shock pot was perfectly vertical and in line with the front face of the master cylinder. Once we had that setup, we definitely recorded some deflection.

The tests were performed with the engine off (no vacuum assist). The brake pedal was pressed several times at varying pressure. Brake line pressure was monitored via OBD2 at a resolution of 1 bar (14.7 psi), and the master cylinder deflection was measured via analog channel at a resolution of 0.001" (4 inch linear potentiometer at 12 bit resolution).

http://i.imgur.com/HV5hxQQ.jpg

You can see here, despite what may be a structurally inefficient position, it's absolutely effective, reducing master cylinder deflection by 57%. Could it be better? Maybe, but the returns would be minimal. You guys already know it improves feel, here's why.

Chazzzy 08-20-2015 10:49 AM

VERY Cool!! Thanks for the Info!

Rameus 08-20-2015 02:39 PM

Practically every thread by you guys provides real data or at least truly useful information.

Thanks for taking such a comprehensive approach to developing the platform, and above all, sharing the results with us on a regular basis.

If I had 10 posts to my name I'd just click thanks, but this probably gets my point across better anyway.

waltco 08-20-2015 07:12 PM

This is awesome! Thank you so much for sharing!

why? 08-20-2015 08:51 PM

that is total win.

aegisdrgn 08-23-2015 09:47 PM

The numbers don't lie! Thanks for making the test results available!

duke_FRS 08-24-2015 02:49 PM

This is why I love this community. Great information

JS + BRZ 08-27-2015 09:34 PM

Awesome stuff. Thank you so much.

timurrrr 08-07-2020 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSpeed (Post 2362954)
Brake line pressure was monitored via OBD2 at a resolution of 1 bar (14.7 psi)

Sorry to necro this old thread, but do you happen to remember how to monitor brake pressure via OBD2?

7c8 08-07-2020 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3355604)
Sorry to necro this old thread, but do you happen to remember how to monitor brake pressure via OBD2?

This is only available over the CAN:
Address: 0x0d1
Length: 1 byte
Offset: 2 bytes

timurrrr 08-07-2020 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7c8 (Post 3355798)
This is only available over the CAN:
Address: 0x0d1
Length: 1 byte
Offset: 2 bytes

Got it, thanks! I was thinking you knew some trick to get it via OBD-II without CAN :)

7c8 08-08-2020 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3355820)
Got it, thanks! I was thinking you knew some trick to get it via OBD-II without CAN :)

Haha, unfortunately I haven't seen it available through OBD. Good luck!


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