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why? 08-19-2015 01:16 PM

towhook License plate kit
 
Are there any of these that are reasonably priced? Everything seems to be $80 or more for a piece of metal. Am I crazy in thinking this is a ton of money to move the license plate a foot?

Tcoat 08-19-2015 01:37 PM

For that much money I would just go with this:
http://www.hidetheplate.com/product_...&products_id=1

sillierabbit 08-19-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2362507)
For that much money I would just go with this:
http://www.hidetheplate.com/product_...&products_id=1

Do you know of any twin running this? I would want to see how it looks like on our vehicle. Also, what if you have a kit?

Tcoat 08-19-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sillierabbit (Post 2362527)
Do you know of any twin running this? I would want to see how it looks like on our vehicle. Also, what if you have a kit?

I know there are few that have it but don't remember who. Hopefully they will chime in.
The plate drilled into the bumper doesn't bother me so I have never done much investigation I just knew these hide a plates things existed.

ZOMFGAARON 08-19-2015 02:04 PM

They're $35-40 on eBay


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GSpeed 08-19-2015 02:28 PM

I put one of the CravenSpeed ones on my wife's Mini. Quality was great. Looked into making one myself, and the problem is the odd trapezoidal thread pitch. Not easy to make in small quantities.

Probably one of those things where they (OEM Engineers) use an intentionally obscure thread pitch to keep people from putting hardware store quality bolts in there and hurting themselves. Kind of like lug nuts.

Jake

DAEMANO 08-19-2015 02:34 PM

Don't know anything about this but... $50

http://rev9power.com/exterior-produc...nting-kit.html

http://rev9power.com/media/catalog/p...brz-008__1.jpg

http://rev9power.com/media/catalog/p...z-008twl_2.jpg

http://rev9power.com/media/catalog/p...z-008twl_3.jpg

G-awesome 08-19-2015 03:37 PM

I say the same about many car parts molded out of plastic or metal that's made in china for next to nothing but I come to accept that if you wanna mod your car...you're gonna empty your bank account to do it. :P

Anyways, try ebay or make your own if you're feeling like McGyver. (BTW, I have the grimmspeed kit and the build quality is fantastic! Can't go wrong with perrin or grimmspeed stuff.)

extrashaky 08-19-2015 06:29 PM

I have the Grimmspeed kit on my car. I paid $78.94 all in for it from Amazon, and I feel like I got my money's worth. It's more adjustable than most of the kits out there so that you can get it in just the position, angle and depth you think looks best. At the same time, it's pretty solid and secure.

I don't think I would bother with that hidden plate thing. Seems like it would end up getting knocked off our cars. If I really needed to hide the plate for a car show (yeah, right), I could have the Grimmspeed mount off my car in a couple of minutes.

I haven't seen another kit yet that I thought would have been better than the one I bought. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and spend the money for the best solution.

why? 08-19-2015 07:34 PM

The Grimmspeed is the $80 one, I guess it is better than Raceseng's $150 one.

The Craven one is still $80 too. I guess y'all are probably right, you get what you pay for...

DannyQ86 08-19-2015 07:38 PM

You could always just buy a used one that pops up on the forums, that will save you some cash. I have the grimmspeed kit, it was the first thing I bought for the car so I didn't have to drill any holes in my car. Great quality.

extrashaky 08-20-2015 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by why? (Post 2363023)
The Grimmspeed is the $80 one, I guess it is better than Raceseng's $150 one.

The Craven one is still $80 too. I guess y'all are probably right, you get what you pay for...

The Raceseng one looks interesting, but looking at how it's put together, I would be more confident in the Grimmspeed. When you adjust the angle on the Grimmspeed, you lock it in place so that it's not going to somehow touch the bumper and scratch it. The Raceseng has the angle adjustment, but I don't see a way to lock it. If that ball joint gets loose somehow, it might move and contact paint.

Based on the design, I wouldn't bother with the Craven at all. I guess you have to bend the tab in the middle to adjust the angle? No thanks. And there's no provision to adjust the position from center. It's surprising that they want as much for that as the Grimmspeed, when it lacks the Grimmspeed's features.

The suggestion to watch the classified board is a good one. I have seen several come up for sale back when I lived in a state where I didn't need one. When I moved to a state that required a front license plate, I couldn't wait around for another one to become available.

Kellen@craven 08-20-2015 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2363533)

Based on the design, I wouldn't bother with the Craven at all. I guess you have to bend the tab in the middle to adjust the angle? No thanks. And there's no provision to adjust the position from center. It's surprising that they want as much for that as the Grimmspeed, when it lacks the Grimmspeed's features.

Maybe I need to work on the description of our Platypus, there is no bending required. The tab steel backing plate is bent on a press brake to the angle we have selected for the FR-S. Instead of a universal design, we have opted to make a variety of plates and studs and then fit specific models. That's why we don't have a bunch of mounting locations or angle adjustment, IMHO, you don't need them.

I'd am down to answer any questions you might have, I'll subscribe to the thread so I can get back to you quickly as I can.

sukumizu 08-20-2015 07:19 PM

Bought a relocator kit off Amazon for like $30 (I think it was from godspeed). As long as you make sure that everything's tight it'll get the job done.

why? 08-20-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kellen@craven (Post 2364024)
Maybe I need to work on the description of our Platypus, there is no bending required. The tab steel backing plate is bent on a press brake to the angle we have selected for the FR-S. Instead of a universal design, we have opted to make a variety of plates and studs and then fit specific models. That's why we don't have a bunch of mounting locations or angle adjustment, IMHO, you don't need them.

I'd am down to answer any questions you might have, I'll subscribe to the thread so I can get back to you quickly as I can.

That is good to know, it isn't obvious from the page or the two videos. Although the gigantic list of specific makes might have made it obvious, companies have done the same type of thing for universal products.



What's funny is after the video of the girl installing it, youtube showed me the video of the grimmspeed being installed, and the video makes it look like a 10 step process, lol.

extrashaky 08-21-2015 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kellen@craven (Post 2364024)
Maybe I need to work on the description of our Platypus, there is no bending required. The tab steel backing plate is bent on a press brake to the angle we have selected for the FR-S.

No, the description is pretty clear. In other words, unlike your competitors, the angle and position of your mount are not adjustable (without bending it, which if I'm understanding correctly you don't recommend). What if I don't like the angle you selected and would prefer to select my own? What if I would like it a little more toward the center, or a little more toward the fender?

I've got nothing against you or your product. It's just that your product has fewer features for the money than your competitor.

socal_48 08-22-2015 03:31 AM

I have the ptuning kit, great price and has great adjustability.

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Kellen@craven 08-26-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2364525)
No, the description is pretty clear. In other words, unlike your competitors, the angle and position of your mount are not adjustable (without bending it, which if I'm understanding correctly you don't recommend). What if I don't like the angle you selected and would prefer to select my own? What if I would like it a little more toward the center, or a little more toward the fender?

I've got nothing against you or your product. It's just that your product has fewer features for the money than your competitor.

extrashaky- Would you be at all interested in me sending you a demo unit to review? I would be really interested in your feedback about the fit, ease of use, location, etc. I am always interested in improving our products.

DannyQ86 08-26-2015 03:54 PM

That's a very generous offer. Actually going to look into your company now to see what else you guys offer.

extrashaky 08-26-2015 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kellen@craven (Post 2370642)
extrashaky- Would you be at all interested in me sending you a demo unit to review? I would be really interested in your feedback about the fit, ease of use, location, etc. I am always interested in improving our products.

That's a classy offer, and I appreciate it. However, I can see what I need to see from the pictures and video. With the one I bought from your competitor, I adjusted it a few times before I got it right where I wanted it, which was off center from the bolt on both axes. I initially had it centered on the bolt the way yours is designed, but I didn't like it there. So I moved it down and toward the nose. Looking at the pics of it installed on other people's BRZs, I don't have to put it on my own car to be able to tell you I don't like where your mount locates the plate.

That's your major weakness. It's clear that it's easy to install. Build quality appears to be decent. It's the fact that it's not adjustable that is simply a deal breaker for me. Perhaps you're betting on ease of installation at the cost of adjustability, but for me it lacks necessary features that at least one of your competitors offers at the same price point.

I like your attitude, though, so I'll keep an eye on your company for future products.

mav1178 08-26-2015 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2363533)
The Raceseng one looks interesting, but looking at how it's put together, I would be more confident in the Grimmspeed. When you adjust the angle on the Grimmspeed, you lock it in place so that it's not going to somehow touch the bumper and scratch it. The Raceseng has the angle adjustment, but I don't see a way to lock it. If that ball joint gets loose somehow, it might move and contact paint.

As an user of the Raceseng one, here's my two cents:
  1. As a license plate tow mount ONLY, it is overpriced.
  2. As license plate mount AND tow hook/GoPro mount, it is the best bang for the buck on the market.
  3. The adjustment was done once on the plate mount ball joint when I first got it. I have never adjusted the front mount since and I've installed/removed the license plate mount/tow/GoPro mount over 200 times for the track. The inner set screw needs to be adjusted once for the tow, and you readjust the license plate base based on the tow hook set screw adjustment.

At the end of the day, some parts are worth the expense and some are not. The Raceseng mount has been perfect for me given my above average track usage of my car.

YMMV.

-alex

Kellen@craven 08-28-2015 01:44 AM

extrashaky- Thanks for your consideration, someone else has contacted me about doing a review. Maybe, he'll feel the same way as you do.

So...I do offer GoPro and tow hook mounts also. I had never really considered making them all into one thing? Would a lot of you guys be interested in that, I could make it happen for you.

Ashikabi 08-28-2015 03:47 PM

Has anyone considered modifying a tow hook with a plate to attach the license plate to? Stock tow hook can't cost more than what 10$?

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mav1178 08-28-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2373172)
Has anyone considered modifying a tow hook with a plate to attach the license plate to? Stock tow hook can't cost more than what 10$?

So how would you propose mounting this plate onto the stock tow hook with anything other than rope, zip ties, or straps?

And how would you keep the plate straight?

(I ask the question because you have not thought about this in great detail, and once you do you'll realize this is about the worst way to relocate the front plates. Yes you can modify the stock tow hook but you'd also assume the person has fab skills w/ proper tools.)

-alex

ZOMFGAARON 08-28-2015 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2373172)
Has anyone considered modifying a tow hook with a plate to attach the license plate to? Stock tow hook can't cost more than what 10$?

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Ashikabi 08-28-2015 04:05 PM

Weld it? Drill and tap?

I haven't looked into it but didn't someone mention it using a really weird thread? If that's the thing to overcome, get a tow hook, chop the loop, do some welding or other modification process to attach a plate(to which the license plate will affix) to the stump of the hook. It won't be as fancy as racesengs but it'll be cheap

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Ashikabi 08-28-2015 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ZOMFGAARON (Post 2373190)
Yes ,

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