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Benschneider06 08-12-2015 12:19 PM

THIS BUGS THE **** OUT OF ME
 
The #1 thing that bugs me the most about my BRZ is not the "lack of horsepower", the "lack of torque", or the crickets.....

It is this stupid and terribly designed bumper harness....

http://i62.tinypic.com/2porz3c.jpg

I see tons of FRS's & BRZ's with this issue... Mine seems to be getting worse somehow........

I am willing to do just about anything to fix this issue. If anyone knows a good DIY fix for this or some sort of resource please share! I can't find anything.

If not I'm going to go to Subaru.... drop a large chunk of my paycheck on the desk... and tell me not to give it back till it's fixed

:mad0260::mad0260::mad0260::mad0260:

jawn 08-12-2015 12:24 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12659

WhiteFRS69 08-12-2015 12:30 PM

this is one reason why i dont want to take off my bumper


was just on a local car cruise.... everyone who was lowered had this crap...

Benschneider06 08-12-2015 01:07 PM

The only time I've ever taken my bumper off was to attempt to fix this issue... obviously I got no where... lol

Turbo95eg6 08-12-2015 01:39 PM

Mine shows it a little bit, and I never took my bumper off.

Benschneider06 08-12-2015 01:44 PM

I just can't take it.... It's a newer car......

Maybe I have OCD

jawn 08-12-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Benschneider06 (Post 2354795)
I just can't take it.... It's a newer car......

If it's a newer car, and obviously not of your own doing (i.e.: you don't have a giant intake behind the bumper cover)... why don't you take it in for warranty work? They might replace those clips for free, if that's the culprit.

Benschneider06 08-12-2015 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2354798)
If it's a newer car, and obviously not of your own doing (i.e.: you don't have a giant intake behind the bumper cover)... why don't you take it in for warranty work? They might replace those clips for free, if that's the culprit.

I took it in to try and get it fixed under warrenty and they wouldn't do it.

This is an ongoing situation for me. I was just going to tolerate it but I can't do it anymore.

Dadhawk 08-12-2015 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Benschneider06 (Post 2354819)
I took it in to try and get it fixed under warrenty and they wouldn't do it.

This is an ongoing situation for me. I was just going to tolerate it but I can't do it anymore.

Did you talk to a factory rep, or just the dealer? I'd escalate if its still under bumper-to-bumper, and if its a Scion, I'd call Scion Owner support number at Corporate. They are usually pretty helpful.

Benschneider06 08-12-2015 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 2354875)
Did you talk to a factory rep, or just the dealer? I'd escalate if its still under bumper-to-bumper, and if its a Scion, I'd call Scion Owner support number at Corporate. They are usually pretty helpful.

Well as of now my bumper-to-bumper is expired. Not because of the miles but because of time. I talked to multiple people at my dealer.

I can't believe nobody has a fix for this... not even on the other thread that is 6 pages long.

G-Man 08-12-2015 03:33 PM

these exist, not sure how much you want to keep it stock though. also dont even know how well they work, just remember seeing them here a while back.

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/move...l#.VcuRIPlVhBc

wbradley 08-12-2015 03:36 PM

My bumper has been removed/replaced maybe 4 times now. Last time I did it I noticed same thing. Started over and got it on right. Just have to make sure it's lined up right and also make sure you put in the push rivets behind the side markers pulling the bumper back nice and tight. Also the metal strip that bolts along the top of the bumper cover, so there's tension drawing the bumper into position.

Dadhawk 08-12-2015 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benschneider06 (Post 2354951)
Well as of now my bumper-to-bumper is expired. Not because of the miles but because of time. I talked to multiple people at my dealer.

I can't believe nobody has a fix for this... not even on the other thread that is 6 pages long.

I had the opposite problem with condensation in the tail-lights, mine didn't do it until after I had passed the mileage on the bumper-to-bumper but still well within the time limit. Scion said Nope, sorry. There's no reason mileage should be a factor in that, particularly given my car is garaged about 50% of the time.

Benschneider06 08-12-2015 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Man (Post 2354988)
these exist, not sure how much you want to keep it stock though. also dont even know how well they work, just remember seeing them here a while back.

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/move...l#.VcuRIPlVhBc

I've seen these... I'm not prepared to drill a hole through my bumper because subaru and toyota don't have their shit together....

Benschneider06 08-12-2015 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 2354992)
My bumper has been removed/replaced maybe 4 times now. Last time I did it I noticed same thing. Started over and got it on right. Just have to make sure it's lined up right and also make sure you put in the push rivets behind the side markers pulling the bumper back nice and tight. Also the metal strip that bolts along the top of the bumper cover, so there's tension drawing the bumper into position.

Trust me.... it's not an alignment issue.

wbradley 08-12-2015 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Benschneider06 (Post 2355018)
Trust me.... it's not an alignment issue.

I dont mean the whole bumper, but aiming the tabs properly into the slot.

Still, I can see that they will pop out a bit but most people wouldn't even notice it.

Kuri 08-12-2015 05:38 PM

MOR Quick Release or Quik Latch. Never moves... even after hitting an armadillo

Teseo 08-12-2015 05:38 PM

Time for a complete body kit

Rabbit of Caerbonnog 08-12-2015 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuri (Post 2355143)
MOR Quick Release or Quik Latch. Never moves... even after hitting an armadillo


Poor armadillo. Great news for the bumper release.
'Can withstand collisions with armadillos'

Tcoat 08-12-2015 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 2354875)
Did you talk to a factory rep, or just the dealer? I'd escalate if its still under bumper-to-bumper, and if its a Scion, I'd call Scion Owner support number at Corporate. They are usually pretty helpful.

^^This^^
If the original complaint was made before out of warranty you still have avenues you can use.
If still no way then take it to any good body shop. I bet they can fix it up better than new for $100.

wbradley 08-12-2015 07:56 PM

BTW if you come near an armadillo, don't touch it. They carry mycobacyerium lepraie, the cause of Hansen's disease (Leprosy).

Packofcrows 08-13-2015 05:21 AM

Thing with me is that the gap makes me feel like the car has been in a accident or something... but it is new. ;(

headlikeahole 08-13-2015 08:30 AM

I was actually impressed with how well and easily the bumper went back on after removing mine. Line up the clips with the holes, good push and it all clicked together like lego. My previous car, Audi A6, had a million bolts and clips holding the bumper on and it never went on right.

Like others have mentionned; a good body shop will be able to fix that for 1hr labor (60 - 100 bucks)

raven1231 08-13-2015 08:34 AM

The bumper gap drives me crazy as well. Made me regret getting the winjet headlights.

Wyattkb 08-13-2015 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Man (Post 2354988)
these exist, not sure how much you want to keep it stock though. also dont even know how well they work, just remember seeing them here a while back.

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/move...l#.VcuRIPlVhBc

I don't recommend these. You can achieve the same thing with these http://www.quik-latch.com/


Half the price. There is a thread around here somewhere that shows how its done.

Tcoat 08-13-2015 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headlikeahole (Post 2355832)
Line up the clips with the holes, good push and it all clicked together like lego.

http://a248.e.akamai.net/cache.lego....brickLarge&d=1

spitfire481 08-13-2015 11:54 AM

i run a body shop and i still cant get my own bumper to stay without slowly pulling away in that spot. new headlight retaining brackets and new fender/bumper brackets didn't really do anything. it seems to be the downforce on the front bumper pulling that area of the bumper down and out. mine was almost all the way popped out after a pass at the track (133mph). best solution we have found (designed by another forum member) is to attach the lower black plastic tray to the crash bar to keep it from pulling down under force. if that lower tray stays put and doesn't flex, it wont pull the whole bumper down with it

pics

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=115

bass_114 08-13-2015 12:00 PM

Found this DIY you can try also. Although in french pics should be enough...
http://www.quebecfrs.com/forums/guid...-de-pare-choc/

Tcoat 08-13-2015 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bass_114 (Post 2356008)
Found this DIY you can try also. Although in french pics should be enough...
http://www.quebecfrs.com/forums/guid...-de-pare-choc/

Not gonna translate the whole thing but if anybody needs help with a certain section just holler. You can of course just throw it in a translator but that sometimes just gives you gibberish as an answer.

Ultramaroon 08-14-2015 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 2355302)
BTW if you come near an armadillo, don't touch it. They carry mycobacyerium lepraie, the cause of Hansen's disease (Leprosy).

When I was going through survival training I gutted one and cooked it up. That was in 1985. Now that you mention it, my fingers seem a little ndtonm

t4yn4dk

wbradley 08-14-2015 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2356882)
When I was going through survival training I gutted one and cooked it up. That was in 1985. Now that you mention it, my fingers seem a little ndtonm

t4yn4dk

Nobody noticed your nose fall off?

Ultramaroon 08-14-2015 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 2356894)
Nobody noticed your nose fall off?

I don't get out much.

Tcoat 08-14-2015 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2356905)
I don't get out much.

A large, noseless, bear hugging, old, Hungarian. And @soulreapersteve still couldn't find you at a meet.

Benschneider06 08-14-2015 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuri (Post 2355143)
MOR Quick Release or Quik Latch. Never moves... even after hitting an armadillo

Lots of people have suggested this. I can't bring myself to drill a hole in my car and put a big ugly piece of metal on it... there has to be a better way.

I think I'm going to buy new corner supports. If that doesn't work I think I might take my wheel off, remove the wheel well plastic, and try to zip tie it together from the inside without drilling any holes.

Here's the link for the corner supports if anyone is interested

http://www.subarupartsamerica.com/pa...rner%20support

Porcupint 08-14-2015 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benschneider06 (Post 2357258)
Lots of people have suggested this. I can't bring myself to drill a hole in my car and put a big ugly piece of metal on it... there has to be a better way.

I think I'm going to buy new corner supports. If that doesn't work I think I might take my wheel off, remove the wheel well plastic, and try to zip tie it together from the inside without drilling any holes.

Here's the link for the corner supports if anyone is interested

http://www.subarupartsamerica.com/pa...rner%20support

A lot of people have said the corner brackets don't help. I'm thinking I'll go the zip tie route as shown in the quebec forum linked above since that sure as hell won't move once it's done.

TheVoiceOfReason 08-14-2015 04:15 PM

I hit a deer a little over a year ago, and kept having to take my car back to the body shop after the initial repair and argue with insurance over this issue. They kept telling me that it was fixed, but when I'd go back it wouldn't even be attached under the headlight. Insurance let me go to a second shop who made it better, but after a year the tabs on the bumper wore from the pressure pulling down and wouldnt stay at all. I talked to my insurance who let me take it back to the original shop. They only made it worse. I got so tired of the run around from insurance/shops that I ended up doing the lower plastic air dam to crash bar fix myself and all new bumper clips. That made it the best it has been and it stays engaged to the headlight clips now. If my outer bumper tabs hadn't destroyed themselves before doing this it would probably hold perfect. I'll have to get a new bumper at this point for that though.

Who8myrice 08-14-2015 04:20 PM

It could be worse. My co worker just got focus st. Body panels were all miss matched. One side was sticking out while other was in. Worst one was one side rear door was sticking out half inch when fully closed. Did some research and this problem was somewhat common ?

malave7567 08-14-2015 04:25 PM

I've never seen that zip tie method on the quebec forum, but that is probably what I'm going to end up doing. It's getting worse on my car.

Kuri 08-14-2015 06:04 PM

Oh well... at least i don't have to deal with clips. Brackets do not help, trust me, its the loops on the bumper that get stretched.

Porcupint 08-14-2015 06:27 PM

If it's the loops on the bumper. Would putting a thin piece of aluminum underneath. to reinforce it help?


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