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timmymartinez 08-04-2015 09:25 PM

FRS scion , flimsy front bumper ?
 
I was waxing my FRS today and I noticed the front bumper piece right above the grill is super flimsy , I can press it in and flex it , is this normal ? I've never had a car Like that lol thanks

Tcoat 08-04-2015 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by timmymartinez (Post 2346247)
I was waxing my FRS today and I noticed the front bumper piece right above the grill is super flimsy , I can press it in and flex it , is this normal ? I've never had a car Like that lol thanks

Normal. Light weight car has lightweight parts. Every little bit adds up.

extrashaky 08-04-2015 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by timmymartinez (Post 2346247)
I was waxing my FRS today and I noticed the front bumper piece right above the grill is super flimsy , I can press it in and flex it , is this normal ?

I leaned my hand against my fender and noticed that it flexed. It's a car made of painted tin foil.

timmymartinez 08-05-2015 12:34 AM

Haha thanks , yea I guess I'll just have to get used to it

chaoskaze 08-05-2015 12:54 AM

FRS scion , flimsy front bumper ?
 
Think it this way, if u press any parts on lotus & it bends in. Would you call it flimsy? 😂 hope that makes you feel better.

humfrz 08-05-2015 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by timmymartinez (Post 2346247)
I was waxing my FRS today and I noticed the front bumper piece right above the grill is super flimsy , I can press it in and flex it , is this normal ? I've never had a car Like that lol thanks

Hi ya, @timmymartinez and WELCOME to FR-S ownership ...... :thumbsup:

Yes, when waxing your car ..... use only lightweight microfiber towels.

If you use an old dish towel (or a baby diaper) it will be too heavy and dent the car. Yes, baby diapers ...... like made out of cotton .... we used to put them on babies, then wash them out and reuse them...... oh, never mind ....:bonk:

The front bumper is "flexible" so that when you hit a bird at over 130 MPH, the bumper will give (to reform) and not dent.

I think its past my med time ....:respekt:


humfrz

Ultramaroon 08-05-2015 01:02 AM

Light, strong, cheap - pick 2.

It's tough in all the right places.

DAEMANO 08-05-2015 01:06 AM

http://i.imgur.com/avSdWhi.jpg

Ultramaroon 08-05-2015 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2346451)
I think its past my med time ....:respekt:

Oh, humfrz...

http://oi59.tinypic.com/29ktjix.jpg

Ultramaroon 08-05-2015 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2346463)
OTOH be careful with the hood. It's made out of aluminum.

You got 1 right. :D
@DAEMANO

Vracer111 08-05-2015 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2346468)
You got 1 right. :D

1 outta 4 ain't bad... :bonk:

extrashaky 08-05-2015 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 2346449)
Think it this way, if u press any parts on lotus & it bends in. Would you call it flimsy?

Yes. Charging more for tinfoil doesn't magically make it more durable.

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2346451)
The front bumper is "flexible" so that when you hit a bird at over 130 MPH, the bumper will give (to reform) and not dent.

If you were going faster than 130 mph in this car, the bird would hit whatever was towing it.

This thread reminds me of the post last year where the guy sat on his trunk lid and left an imprint of his ass. I truly love this car, but I have no illusions about the trade-offs made to save weight.

Ultramaroon 08-05-2015 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vracer111 (Post 2346475)
1 outta 4 ain't bad... :bonk:

Poor DAEMANO. Can't unring that bell. :slap:

miyoshi82 08-05-2015 01:40 AM

Is the paint protection film for the front bumper from the dealership be any beneficial?

campy 08-05-2015 01:42 AM

I'd rather it flex than shatter!

humfrz 08-05-2015 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by miyoshi82 (Post 2346502)
Is the paint protection film for the front bumper from the dealership be any beneficial?

Yes, it will triple the thickness of the front bumper ....... :lol:


humfrz

timmymartinez 08-05-2015 03:31 AM

Lol yea , everything about this car is pretty fragile but with weight reductions and all , it makes sense , wayyyy different than my mustang gt lol I'm slowly getting past the transition from a boat car to the frs

humfrz 08-05-2015 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by timmymartinez (Post 2346568)
Lol yea , everything about this car is pretty fragile but with weight reductions and all , it makes sense , wayyyy different than my mustang gt lol I'm slowly getting past the transition from a boat car to the frs

Well, the upside is ....... it doesn't take the PDR man long to pop out the dents .....;)


humfrz

stevesnj 08-05-2015 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2346303)
I leaned my hand against my fender and noticed that it flexed. It's a car made of painted tin foil.

The fenders have been thinned even more on my 2016

Fishbed77 08-05-2015 12:26 PM

Car is totaled.

mav1178 08-05-2015 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by timmymartinez (Post 2346247)
I was waxing my FRS today and I noticed the front bumper piece right above the grill is super flimsy , I can press it in and flex it , is this normal ? I've never had a car Like that lol thanks

I can take off the front bumper of this car in about 15-20 minutes with access to a lift or a high enough jack.

I can do the same for about 99% of the cars out on the market.

Flimsy? Yes, but so are many other cars.

-alex

plynnjr92 08-06-2015 04:35 AM

I've had my FR-S 3 weeks off the dealer lot. I already have 5 chips in my bumper and counting on a white car.. needless to say I'm mad

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Tromatic 08-07-2015 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by plynnjr92 (Post 2347939)
I've had my FR-S 3 weeks off the dealer lot. I already have 5 chips in my bumper and counting on a white car.. needless to say I'm mad

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Why u mad at normal wear?

tyrantcf 08-07-2015 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by plynnjr92 (Post 2347939)
I've had my FR-S 3 weeks off the dealer lot. I already have 5 chips in my bumper and counting on a white car.. needless to say I'm mad

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Maybe you should increase your following distance?

plynnjr92 08-07-2015 02:39 AM

I've just never seen chips collect this fast on my sentra is all. And I'm a truck driver, I know all about following distance.

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dnieves 08-07-2015 07:48 AM

1. paints are water based now a days for the environment they don't hold up as well -it's a tradeoff.
2. your best protection again chips is to increase the distance between you and the car ahead of you and steer clear of 4X4s dump trucks (and the best one!) get Paint Protection Film!
3. all cars flex easily because the plastic they use is a urethane on the bumpers to absorb energy when you hit something (or someone).
4. all <normal> cars are easy to dent because they have to use thinner sheet metal to improve gas mileage -it's a tradeoff. Normal as Camrys, Accords and below -not LFA, Corvette, etc.

AznBRZer 08-07-2015 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by plynnjr92 (Post 2347939)
I've had my FR-S 3 weeks off the dealer lot. I already have 5 chips in my bumper and counting on a white car.. needless to say I'm mad

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It's what makes a Subaru a Subaru!

soulreapersteve 08-07-2015 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by plynnjr92 (Post 2347939)
I've had my FR-S 3 weeks off the dealer lot. I already have 5 chips in my bumper and counting on a white car.. needless to say I'm mad

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I stopped giving a crap about the chips on the bumper. After the first one came from driving behind a Corvette, I said fuck it and didn't give two shits since.

After the 4th chip, I haven't seen one since (about 3 weeks ago, interestingly).

That being said, my car isn't a show car so I count the chips as battle scars lol

Tcoat 08-07-2015 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by soulreapersteve (Post 2349361)
I stopped giving a crap about the chips on the bumper. After the first one came from driving behind a Corvette, I said fuck it and didn't give two shits since.

After the 4th chip, I haven't seen one since (about 3 weeks ago, interestingly).

That being said, my car isn't a show car so I count the chips as battle scars lol

I have found that I had a pile of chips for the first few months but haven't had a new one since spring. Since my driving habits and routes have not changed I am a bit baffled as to what is different.

Hotrodheart 08-07-2015 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by plynnjr92 (Post 2349263)
I've just never seen chips collect this fast on my sentra is all. And I'm a truck driver, I know all about following distance.

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It is a well known fact that Nissan paint is much better than Scion paint. You could look it up.

brandonblt2 08-07-2015 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2349365)
I have found that I had a pile of chips for the first few months but haven't had a new one since spring. Since my driving habits and routes have not changed I am a bit baffled as to what is different.

Im going to guess less debris and no salt on the road form snow. I know in the summer months their tends to be less crap and debris on the road after all the potholes are filled and you're more than likely to have a street sweeper clean the roadway during the summer where as winter that never happens. So cleaner roadway less crap being thrown at you.

Tcoat 08-07-2015 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodheart (Post 2349372)
It is a well known fact that Nissan paint is much better than Scion paint. You could look it up.

Comparing any paint from before 2013 is a waste of time and energy.
As I have said before in other threads there was a world wide (yes even in China) requirement to reduce the amount of VOCs (Volatile Organic Compounds) in all paint. This meant that all manufactures had to change their materials. Unfortunately paint tech has not kept pace with the reduction requirements and it has resulted in poorer quality paint across the board.
Sooooo, all the "my old XXXX had better paint" are right, did they. We are stuck with what we have now and it is only going to get worse as the world governments ban yet even more compounds that were used in the past so we might as well get used to it.

Tcoat 08-07-2015 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by brandonblt2 (Post 2349376)
Im going to guess less debris and no salt on the road form snow. I know in the summer months their tends to be less crap and debris on the road after all the potholes are filled and you're more than likely to have a street sweeper clean the roadway during the summer where as winter that never happens. So cleaner roadway less crap being thrown at you.

Nope although that would make sense.
Most of my travels are on a highway and they don't see sweepers. With the vast majority of my chips I know exactly how and when I was hit and most of them came from stuff being kicked up by or falling off trucks. A 1/4 inch pebble thrown up by a truck can hit like a bullet.
I was actually very impressed with the lack of chips caused by following or passing salt trucks last winter. I guess it is softer and both it and I were moving slower when it hit.

Ultramaroon 08-07-2015 12:58 PM

I'm collecting chips and dings until my wife says it's time to repaint & PDR all in one fell swoop. I care about its appearance but I'm not losing sleep over it.

mikool 08-07-2015 01:13 PM

I collected quite a bit of chips driving from Toronto to Calgary, Northern Ontario was a hell of a drive, cliffslide "rails" which looked to be made of toothpicks and floss.

brandonblt2 08-07-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2349390)
Nope although that would make sense.
Most of my travels are on a highway and they don't see sweepers. With the vast majority of my chips I know exactly how and when I was hit and most of them came from stuff being kicked up by or falling off trucks. A 1/4 inch pebble thrown up by a truck can hit like a bullet.
I was actually very impressed with the lack of chips caused by following or passing salt trucks last winter. I guess it is softer and both it and I were moving slower when it hit.

Hmm Idk most highways are sweep from time to time by the States maintenance crew or else the pile of crap in the shoulder lanes would make it impossible to use them. Maybe its different in Canada :iono: or area's that dont see as much traffic volume

Tcoat 08-07-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonblt2 (Post 2349710)
Hmm Idk most highways are sweep from time to time by the States maintenance crew or else the pile of crap in the shoulder lanes would make it impossible to use them. Maybe its different in Canada :iono: or area's that dont see as much traffic volume

What are these "shoulder lanes" you speak of? All the crap just eventually ends up in the ditch.

extrashaky 08-07-2015 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonblt2 (Post 2349710)
Hmm Idk most highways are sweep from time to time by the States maintenance crew or else the pile of crap in the shoulder lanes would make it impossible to use them. Maybe its different in Canada :iono: or area's that dont see as much traffic volume

Depends on where in the US you are. I had to spend a few horrible weeks in Dallas recently and noticed one long overpass where there actually were piles of road debris along the concrete rail so that it would have been impossible to pull over without doing damage to your car. I started looking and realized that the rest of the roads in Dallas have that debris also, but it gets blown off the shoulder into the grass. I guess they figure it'll all get mulched when they mow.

Tcoat 08-07-2015 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2349819)
Depends on where in the US you are. I had to spend a few horrible weeks in Dallas recently and noticed one long overpass where there actually were piles of road debris along the concrete rail so that it would have been impossible to pull over without doing damage to your car. I started looking and realized that the rest of the roads in Dallas have that debris also, but it gets blown off the shoulder into the grass. I guess they figure it'll all get mulched when they mow.

Try driving through Detroit! I could probably build a car with what is on the sides of the Interstates in some spots.

paulca 08-08-2015 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2346482)
If you were going faster than 130 mph in this car, the bird would hit whatever was towing it.

Why? Unless they neuter the US models the top speed is 140-something. I have seen photos of 147mph on the dash.


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