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9k euro that's like what 12k in usd ? Fthat for half that price slap greedy turbo on it makes about same power. Only down side it's not CA ligal

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or just go for the SC kit with your own exhaust?
then its $6500 for 260Bhp on stock exhaust

This is what I like to hear. While the price may be a significant drawback for some, it is undeniable that you are getting what you pay for. I can't wait till I have 6K sitting around to drop on the system.

Idk, looking at the telegraph article their testing statistics did not impress me, 14k street driven miles and 50 hours on a dyno are just proof of concept imo, especially if it was only on a single test car.

There are a few people with more than 50 hours on a racetrack on their kits and three to four times as many miles. I have no doubt that Cosworth has put together a solid kit but they are literally a year behind in terms of proving themselves not to mention they are also behind on gains without even considering the price they charge.

I'm glad the kit exists and is out there providing competition but it will take more than what they've shown to win my money in a few years.

That's fair. They are behind a bit. But still... given the Cosworth pedigree I feel safe.

With the E-force kit being significantly less money (rumored/expected) Cosworth gains are not worth cosworth money. Especially since their gains are net of all previous stages and appropriate tunes.

@weederr33 help me out here


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I think the telegraph hasn't quite got it facts straight

the total run time was over 300hours including a 50 hour continous run which was an endurance test
the endurance test was 45 seconds of full throttle, accelerating through the gears and then 15 seconds of low / idle speed before repeating the cycle
so a 1 minute cycle repeated over and over to achieve 50 hours total

this is in addition to the 14K miles on the dev car on a 2nd set of parts

so its comfortably the most tested kit out there before being released for sale and there are a few out there now all racking up the miles

will it be though?
Edelbrock kit is usually towards the top end so I'd expect it to be about $6000 for their kit compared to $6500 for the cosworth kit

and yes the cosworth kit includes an appropiate tune

just like all the other kits out there.....

Keep in mind that the edelbrock kit is on a CARB 91 octane tune. The cosworth is not.

What octane is Cosworth tuned for ?

@Icanfaptothis86

93 octane.

Not only is the Edel on 91 octane, But its on an Emissions tune. Where they can't exceed XXX of greenhouse gases.
In other words, on 91 octane w/ a different tune, it may yield better results.

I will also throw out, unless cosworth changed their marketing they list flywheel HP not wheels

the accurate method of measuring Bhp you mean?

accurate but apples and oranges vs all the other turbo/supercharger numbers you see on here.

true enough
Ithink there's been enough kits now dyno'd though
weeder's kit was 250Hp at the wheels i think

Here's another review from Car Magazine.

nice one thanks

Interesting from the Car Magazine article:

Hadn't hear that bit about the thermostat before, almost makes it seem like the high oil temperatures people have been concerned about are a byproduct of a deliberate design decision that is easily fixed by opening the thermostat up, couldn't be that easy could it? Weird.

I still believe some folks hate Toyota/Subaru for not giving them a sub 2500 lb, 300hp/280tq 2.0t, RWD sports car for 25k. Funny thing is the same individuals won't lament on a +3500 lb coupe with 400 hp at 34k. The only car that came close to the specs people wanted was a RX7 FD which adjusted for inflation is around 54k in today's money. The cool thing is you can kind of make a FR-S into a modern FD spec-wise at probably 35k (car + mods)or less which this article has shown albeit with more overpriced parts.

is the SC overpriced though?
I'd say the exhaust is pricey but you have to buy that to use their kit.

It's way cheaper in the US. I think I see them going for 5k-6.5k possibly with a tune in the pricier one.

I found one with a tune for 5k.

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/jack...l#.VcXoGPklrOA