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WGMGR 07-11-2015 08:10 PM

Good platform for stripped down gt3 car?
 
Thinking of making a stripped down gt3 car, brz or lotus?

MaximeT 07-12-2015 01:18 PM

BRZ.
Lotus got crapy weight distribution, gear ratios, shifting feel, build quality, reliability.

If you can go crazy, a Lotus with BOE TVS supercharger, EliseParts paddle shifter gearbox and all the light stuff gonna be crazy fast.

I'm switching atm from an Exige to a GT86 for the cargo space, because I wanna use slick tires.

Parts are less expensive for the Lotus, coilovers are like half the price.

If you don't need the cargo space, s2000 is the best car. In this case I would do an Evasive like build.

Lotus steering feel is the main reason to get one.
The low weight is counterbalanced by the crapy weight distribution 62% rear.

Anyway, you have to buy a NA Exige. OEM supercharger is useless and more expensive.

BlackJesus 07-12-2015 01:56 PM

Is there alot of Lotus in your area? Is there a price range that you want to be in? Lotus in my area are usually around the 40k mark due to it's "rarity" .

MaximeT 07-12-2015 01:56 PM

Exige prices are increasing in Europe too.

mav1178 07-12-2015 01:59 PM

Depends entirely on what the series rules dictate.

-alex

mav1178 07-12-2015 11:00 PM

To add to my comment, I think this car is absolutely the worst thing to use for racing in the GT3 category.

Here's a list of the currently-homologated cars in GT3 classification:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_...mologated_cars

Touring car racing, I can accept as the entry barrier (and performance level) of the cars is lower.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touring_car_racing

If you are thinking about SCCA GT3 then that's an entirely different story.

-alex

MaximeT 07-13-2015 03:54 AM

By gt3, OP means gt3 race car or gt3 like road going track day car ?

My comments were for the road going one.

WGMGR 07-14-2015 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaximeT (Post 2318944)
By gt3, OP means gt3 race car or gt3 like road going track day car ?

My comments were for the road going one.

Road going. I dont want to race it but i want it like a gt3 car... If that makes sense?

MaximeT 07-14-2015 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WGMGR (Post 2320631)
Road going. I dont want to race it but i want it like a gt3 car... If that makes sense?

I'm in the same case.

If you want a lightweight (low running cost) car, you have to choose between Exige, FT86 and s2000.

The s2000 will be the fastest car for the lowest cost.

FT86 if you need the cargo space to carry track tires.

Exige for the ultimate pace, with:

BWR build engine and TVS supercharger (400hp on pump gas)
EliseParts sequential gearbox
EliseParts brake discs with OEM calipers for sprint or AP racing for endurance
Nitron 46 mm coilovers
TSW 1.4 wheels.

MaximeT 07-14-2015 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2320744)

I don't get it o:

Tcoat 07-14-2015 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaximeT (Post 2320749)
I don't get it o:

Ahhhh shit lost the link! Let me try again.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42284

MaximeT 07-14-2015 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2320757)
Ahhhh shit lost the link! Let me try again.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42284

Yeah, that's a nice thread

Here is the Evasive s2000 :

http://www.superstreetonline.com/fea...4-honda-s2000/


The BWR / BOE stuff :

http://www.blackwatchracing.com/Revo...its-p/1119.htm

http://www.boefabrication.com/

The gearbox :
http://www.eliseparts.com/products/s...ntial-gearbox/

Lotus OEM gearbox is not good enough for a supercharger, you need at least the kaaz gearsets.

If you don't have the money for the build engine, you can go for the non intercooled 300 hp TVS
The TVS is a high efficiency supercharger that don't need intercooler for 300 hp. Even for racing purpose.
Stock engine is safe at 300hp

strat61caster 07-14-2015 01:34 PM

Build a spec Miata, cheaper than an 86 and over 5 seconds a lap quicker than a stock BRZ around Laguna Seca and a huge community and aftermarket available.

And then you can actually go race it for a season or two with the money you saved from not buying a Toyobaru.

MaximeT 07-14-2015 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2320785)
Build a spec Miata, cheaper than an 86 and over 5 seconds a lap quicker than a stock BRZ around Laguna Seca and a huge community and aftermarket available.

And then you can actually go race it for a season or two with the money you saved from not buying a Toyobaru.

I dunno much about miata, 5 seconds with same tires on both cars ?


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