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churchx 07-10-2015 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2316495)
Increasing the logging modrate is easy. But it's a trade off between logging rate and datalog file size. People tend to get caught up with logging rates when there is little or no benifit of logging engine channels once you go beyond a certain rate. It's not like we are datalogging formula one cars here. But to be fair, once you start logging things like G sensors, faster rates may be useful. And if that turns out to be the case, we will adjust the logging rate accordingly.

How about individual higher sampling rates per each monitored setting where it's needed, and slower ones (or dropping redundant subintervals data) where it's not?
Or .. in future OFT models wifi NAS mount or usb external storage for saving big loads of detailed full logs at less space-limited elsewhere?

Malt 07-10-2015 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 2316885)
How about individual higher sampling rates per each monitored setting where it's needed, and slower ones (or dropping redundant subintervals data) where it's not?
Or .. in future OFT models wifi NAS mount or usb external storage for saving big loads of detailed full logs at less space-limited elsewhere?

Hardware changes are not something that Shiv has control over, so stuff like wifi/NAS/USB external storage are things that the parent company that produces the tablet would have to introduce in a new product.

A lot of these new features are something that I wish I had on my Cobb AP!

Vmax911 07-10-2015 05:31 PM

So if we can now monitor tire pressure, and chance we can disable the darn "low pressure" light all together?

Shiv@Openflash 07-10-2015 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vmax911 (Post 2316942)
So if we can now monitor tire pressure, and chance we can disable the darn "low pressure" light all together?

Pressure cannot be monitored yet. Just individual tire air temp. Can't make promises to eliminate safety warnings due to liability concerns.

Shiv@Openflash 07-10-2015 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx (Post 2316885)
How about individual higher sampling rates per each monitored setting where it's needed, and slower ones (or dropping redundant subintervals data) where it's not?
Or .. in future OFT models wifi NAS mount or usb external storage for saving big loads of detailed full logs at less space-limited elsewhere?

There is a lot of things that can be done with regards to the datalogging code. But it's a tradeoff between time constraints more than anything else. We have an ever-growing To Do list which means that we need to prioritize updates carefully. As for storage capacity, there is plenty of it on the OFT. It is in the viewing/plotting domain where huge files become more a problem due to wait times.

Jrdad 07-10-2015 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2317176)
Pressure cannot be monitored yet. Just individual tire air temp. Can't make promises to eliminate safety warnings due to liability concerns.

Could the psi be adjusted for when the light turns on or is that a mechanical problem? I like to run my tires at 30psi but on a cooler day it's enough to set the light off.

Shiv@Openflash 07-10-2015 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bee_are_zee (Post 2316526)
@Shiv@Openflash

Just a thought; how difficult would it be to make logging rate user selectable for times when you are logging engine parameters for tuning vs logging an autocross run?

That will take some time. I don't see it happening in the foreseeable future.

Aztec 07-10-2015 10:51 PM

Fantastic update Shiv!! Now I just need more info on that OFT350
And if I already have the OFT/OFH, is there a greater discount?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...9ae556a495.jpg

CSG Mike 07-10-2015 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2316495)
Increasing the logging rate is easy. But it's a trade off between logging rate and datalog file size. People tend to get caught up with logging rates when there is little or no benifit of logging engine channels once you go beyond a certain rate. It's not like we are datalogging formula one cars here. But to be fair, once you start logging things like G sensors, faster rates may be useful. And if that turns out to be the case, we will adjust the logging rate accordingly.

10hz is not really useable for track duty; 100hz is.

I don't mind having datalogs in the hundreds of megabytes.

Shiv@Openflash 07-10-2015 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2317275)
10hz is not really useable for track duty; 100hz is.

I don't mind having datalogs in the hundreds of megabytes.

Please explain how 10hz is not useable but 100hz is.

Thorpedo 07-11-2015 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2317275)
10hz is not really useable for track duty; 100hz is.

I don't mind having datalogs in the hundreds of megabytes.

Yeah bro, anything less than 100hz and your coolant temp log just isn't accurate enough.

So, what you're saying is... a 10hz Gforce reading is useless for track duty? Uhh.... Really? Now of course there are certain parameters where 100hz would be really useful (wheel speed), but saying 10hz "is not really useable" generally is, well... silly.

CSG Mike 07-11-2015 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2317282)
Please explain how 10hz is not useable but 100hz is.

My driving corrections happen in less than 0.2s. Seeing one "spike" of steering angle, with momentary wheelspin that only occurs for 0.35s doesn't help me figure out what's going on, when the data comes at a rate of 0.1s.

with 100hz vs 10hz, you're comparing maybe 5 data points during the incident, vs 50.

CSG Mike 07-11-2015 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Thorpedo (Post 2317322)
Yeah bro, anything less than 100hz and your coolant temp log just isn't accurate enough.

So, what you're saying is... a 10hz Gforce reading is useless for track duty? Uhh.... Really? Now of course there are certain parameters where 100hz would be really useful (wheel speed), but saying 10hz "is not really useable" generally is, well... silly.

Yes, I am.

How long do you think the impulse of hitting a berm, or a dip lasts for?

I'm not saying that all channels need to be polled at 100hz. I poll voltage at 1hz unless I'm doing diagnostics. I'd just like the option to be able to bump the poll rate up.

steve99 07-11-2015 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2317334)
My driving corrections happen in less than 0.2s. Seeing one "spike" of steering angle, with momentary wheelspin that only occurs for 0.35s doesn't help me figure out what's going on, when the data comes at a rate of 0.1s.

with 100hz vs 10hz, you're comparing maybe 5 data points during the incident, vs 50.

True however its also going to depend on traffic on the CAN buss and if the BCM/VSC updates at 100hz .

No use interrogating the BCM/VSC for data at 100hz if the BCM only updates at 20hz. or the CAN buss wont respond to that level of interrogation.

efactor84 07-11-2015 02:04 AM

Is there going to be more CAL files to be unlocked in the near future?

churchx 07-11-2015 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2317180)
There is a lot of things that can be done with regards to the datalogging code. But it's a tradeoff between time constraints more than anything else. We have an ever-growing To Do list which means that we need to prioritize updates carefully. As for storage capacity, there is plenty of it on the OFT. It is in the viewing/plotting domain where huge files become more a problem due to wait times.

If main issue is OFT speed to work with/display data, not storage space, then another easy way would be split big log file in smaller. Be it in eg. 5 or 1 min increments, or by user configurable time count. So then feature to be added: "auto-splitting/rotating" logfile output with adding timestamp (of log end/cut) to filename + UI for selection which logfile to display.

Thorpedo 07-11-2015 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2317335)
Yes, I am.

How long do you think the impulse of hitting a berm, or a dip lasts for?

I'm not saying that all channels need to be polled at 100hz. I poll voltage at 1hz unless I'm doing diagnostics. I'd just like the option to be able to bump the poll rate up.

Yep, silly.

I am well aware of how long the impulse lasts for, the mental math is easy. But tossing the 10hz data out the window and saying it isn't useful whatsoever is completely foolish. Of course 100hz would be better, and more useful for things like what you just brought up, but it's not black and white like you make it out to be. :barf::barf::barf::barf:

"MOMMMMMMMMMMMMM The added datalogging capability you just gave me for free isn't good enoughh!!!!! WAHHH!!!" *Throws it on the floor*

_gt86_user 07-11-2015 10:24 AM

Yup agreed ^

Silver Ignition 07-11-2015 11:50 AM

Can't we all agree that the OFT is getting better with this update?


Will it be your ideal standalone track companion? No.
Is it better than what 98% of us have currently? Heck yes.

If you guys are that serious about your track driving, you're not using OTS tunes anyways...

nunonuna 07-11-2015 02:12 PM

Wow~
Love OFT more and more!
Thanks a bunch~
@Shiv@Openflash
Is it possible for you to remove "esc" button from the on screen keyboard when creating data log file??
I accidentally pressed it while I was typing name of file and the data log was lost~ LOL

Shiv@Openflash 07-12-2015 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nunonuna (Post 2317610)
Wow~
Love OFT more and more!
Thanks a bunch~
@Shiv@Openflash
Is it possible for you to remove "esc" button from the on screen keyboard when creating data log file??
I accidentally pressed it while I was typing name of file and the data log was lost~ LOL


Good idea. We can make this change :)

myioz86 07-13-2015 03:38 AM

Thanks shiv this oft just gets better and at no extra cost. thats gotta be a first in this day and age.

KevinK121 07-13-2015 12:30 PM

Ive sent a couple PM's over the last couple days. Anxiously looking forward to receiving a response.

Shiv@Openflash 07-13-2015 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2319259)
Ive sent a couple PM's over the last couple days. Anxiously looking forward to receiving a response.

I've been in Italy and Switzerland for the last 8 days. Just got back in late last night and will be catching up with PMs/emails over the next few days :cheers:

DustinS 07-16-2015 03:06 PM

Is it that time of the month yet?

(I only asked so I could use that joke)

86Tony 07-16-2015 03:33 PM

What about the LC for the d00c ecu? When will we be getting that

Chad_W 07-16-2015 06:58 PM

So that means it will be able to 0-60 and 1/4 mile? Virtual Dyno?

phrosty 07-16-2015 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad_W (Post 2323850)
So that means it will be able to 0-60 and 1/4 mile? Virtual Dyno?

You can already read speed though OBD2, so 0-60 should be pretty easy (though, I'm not sure how accurate). 1/4 mile is another story.

D_Thissen 07-23-2015 01:43 PM

Any news on when this will be released?! :D

Shiv@Openflash 07-23-2015 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_Thissen (Post 2332135)
Any news on when this will be released?! :D

Tomorrow. But don't update your OFT just yet. We actually released the update this morning but we found that it has a bug in it. If you update, your diagnostic functions will not work :( Will be fixed by the morning and I will update the forum accordingly! :)

Rybot 07-23-2015 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2332187)
Tomorrow. But don't update your OFT just yet. We actually released the update this morning but we found that it has a bug in it. If you update, your diagnostic functions will not work :( Will be fixed by the morning and I will update the forum accordingly! :)

Sweet!
Thanks for the update!

D_Thissen 07-23-2015 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2332187)
Tomorrow. But don't update your OFT just yet. We actually released the update this morning but we found that it has a bug in it. If you update, your diagnostic functions will not work :( Will be fixed by the morning and I will update the forum accordingly! :)

Thanks man, you guys are awesome!! :thanks:

DustinS 07-23-2015 04:59 PM

Glad I looked here before I plugged my OFT in, I was going to just for the heck of it. Keep up the great work!

efactor84 07-23-2015 06:15 PM

Thank you Shiv for your technical support. Your doing great things for the FA20 Community. We owe the credit to you. I can't wait for this update to come and get some data loggin in for CAL ID D00D.

_gt86_user 07-23-2015 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2332187)
Tomorrow. But don't update your OFT just yet. We actually released the update this morning but we found that it has a bug in it. If you update, your diagnostic functions will not work :( Will be fixed by the morning and I will update the forum accordingly! :)

Very excite! :happyanim:

killerkid08 07-23-2015 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2332187)
Tomorrow. But don't update your OFT just yet. We actually released the update this morning but we found that it has a bug in it. If you update, your diagnostic functions will not work :( Will be fixed by the morning and I will update the forum accordingly! :)


Oh, that's why everything doesn't work anymore. Road Tuning Halted.

KoolBRZ 07-24-2015 01:28 AM

I looked this up after my diagnostics stopped working. Wish I had seen it sooner.

Shiv@Openflash 07-24-2015 04:10 AM

Update released!

ovm_catalyst 07-24-2015 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86Tony (Post 2323604)
What about the LC for the d00c ecu? When will we be getting that

Yes, I'd like to know when this would be available as well! Please!

KoolBRZ 07-24-2015 07:19 PM

Mine is still acting up. The buttons don't work in diags or for logging, but work fine elsewhere. Will be updating tonight again. I'm using firmware 1.33 now on an A00D vehicle.


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