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-   -   Brainiac 10.1" Infotainment System (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91053)

alexand3r 07-03-2015 11:11 PM

Brainiac 10.1" Infotainment System
 
Anyone seen this or know anything about these guys?

http://workshoptwelve.com/2015/06/17...ens-announced/

DieselDog 07-04-2015 12:07 AM

Looks promising. Would need to see a bunch load of features before i take out my NEX.

alexand3r 07-04-2015 12:47 AM

Looks like they're going for Tesla-esque integration. A forum post on nasioc says they're even working on air suspension control.

mrlewistan 07-04-2015 06:57 AM

im interested.

PNW-BRZ 07-05-2015 12:15 AM

Interesting concept. Wonder what the planned price point it is? I love the IDEA of a 10" Display and Can Bus interface. It would be great if you could flash the ECU's Roms and monitored additional parameters similar to OFT.

The idea of my Cars brains being connected to the Internet makes me a bit nervous though. Now my car becomes "hackable" by someone across the globe. Wonder what they are doing about security?

Since you can do Environmental controls through the interface, I'm assuming that the current ones will be removed and replaced with the Brainiac. If the Brainiac goes on the fritz, it could be very unpleasant in the middle of the Winter\Summer. Just some things to think about

industrial 07-05-2015 05:43 AM

Wow that setup looks promising. Do they mention cost anywhere? Are we looking at $1000+?

toast 07-05-2015 10:20 AM

I would imagine this is going to cost considerably more than $1000...

DAEMANO 07-05-2015 06:46 PM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZuKgRrfDvA...-interests.jpg

Bergen23 07-05-2015 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toast (Post 2310111)
I would imagine this is going to cost considerably more than $1000...

Pretty much this. We're talking about something that will cost quite a bit. I just don't see it being worth it, especially on first gen system.

Malt 07-06-2015 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by industrial (Post 2310067)
Wow that setup looks promising. Do they mention cost anywhere? Are we looking at $1000+?

They stated that their planned price point was about the same as other high end 7" double din units currently available on the market.

DAEMANO 07-06-2015 12:36 PM

Got a reply from Workshop12 (the MFG) on NASIOC. Guys, check this out...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 43581414)
@Workshop12

FR-S owner here with manual climate controls. Will the 10.1 install work with my car?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Workshop12 (Post 43581748)
I should clarify.

The 10.1" will work well in the FR-S. The pre-requisite for the 10.1" display is electronic climate control. Meaning works using wires plugged into the back of the climate control unit instead of rods, cables, vacuum switches.

So in your case, you would actually gain automatic climate control by installing Brainiac http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/imag...lies/smile.gif

Dunno if there is some kind of misunderstanding here. If not OMG!

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...php?p=43581748

phanguy 07-06-2015 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2311069)
Got a reply from Workshop12 (the MFG) on NASIOC. Guys, check this out...





Dunno if there is some kind of misunderstanding here. If not OMG!

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...php?p=43581748

that actually makes sense. if the brainac thing is a full on tablet and the software is written well then there is no reason that they can't program autoclimate control into it. it will probably require some kind of temp sensor that i believe non autoclimate cars don't have, but other than that it should be easy. "should be." now that doesn't mean that dual climate control is possible in cars that don't already have it because a lot of that is physical parts that you would have to swap out, but still. could be very cool.

go_a_way1 07-06-2015 01:18 PM

I can see this giving auto climate control but not "dual" climate control.

In for more info!!

Workshop12 07-09-2015 10:04 AM

Hi Everyone,

First thank-you to everyone for your interest in Brainiac!

We're just going through the process of becoming an official vendor so that we can actively answer any of your questions and post updates.

Stay tuned... :)

STV3 07-09-2015 10:22 AM

Sub'd :popcorn:

Workshop12 07-16-2015 10:01 AM

Hi Everyone,

We're now officially a vendor on FT86 Club. We've started up a thread in the classifieds where we'll continue to provide updates on our progress as we continue to push towards making Brainiac commercially available. Feel free to join in the conversation :)

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=1#post2323176

Workshop12 07-16-2015 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2311130)
I can see this giving auto climate control but not "dual" climate control.

In for more info!!


Correct. For the FR-S we can only do a single zone climate control since it doesn't have the extra electronics of the BRZ.


But we do have our own temperature sensor so we can make the existing electronic climate control be "automatic" based on a temperature that you set.

3ananaPie 07-22-2015 05:04 PM

Very interesting, too bad we will probably have to wait a long time for this to come out. :(

DAEMANO 07-22-2015 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3ananaPie (Post 2330918)
Very interesting, too bad we will probably have to wait a long time for this to come out. :(

Good things almost always do. @Workshop12 seems to be moving along nicely though. Do not despair Bananapie, August 12th at ImportFest is where they'll be showing their progress. I'm sure the 86 won't be too many months behind. GET HYPED!

lextrueno 01-05-2016 05:52 PM

Eager to see those who preordered one do an install and review video!!!

ajcarson11 01-06-2016 11:27 AM

Everyone needs to go read the Brainiac: Connected Car Technology thread in the classifieds. It has answers to nearly everything.

kmbkk 01-06-2016 01:38 PM

And for those who are "search" challenged:


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91716

jaorocks1 01-06-2016 09:18 PM

So the 10.1 inch is $999? For a stock FRS will this be simple plug n play? (Trust me I tried reading all the articles but some were months back and may not be up to date)

kmbkk 01-07-2016 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaorocks1 (Post 2500566)
So the 10.1 inch is $999? For a stock FRS will this be simple plug n play? (Trust me I tried reading all the articles but some were months back and may not be up to date)

No, price is $1,399 USD. And it's sorta plug and play for the base FRS. You'll need to order a few parts and install them to make the automatic climate controls function. Other than that, yes it's plug and play. They even provide the automatic climate control wiring.

Arcadien Angel 04-14-2016 02:38 PM

Project has been cancelled. Due to lack of investors, Workshop 12 has stopped progressing on all Brainiac projects indefinitely. All pre-orders cancelled.


https://workshoptwelve.com/2016/04/1...ange-of-plans/

DAEMANO 04-14-2016 02:50 PM

Try to direct comments and or any words of support to the original thread.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...87#post2621887

DAEMANO 04-24-2016 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2621956)
Try to direct comments and or any words of support to the original thread.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...87#post2621887

This thread is closed. Don't know what that means for Workshop12, but the owner also put his project Batmobile up for sale. Life changes. Very sad to see this project die as it had so much promise and so much work done. This leaves lots to think about. Best of luck @Workshop12 and Tim.

NyC Zn6 04-29-2016 01:28 PM

No I was really looking forward to this :(

cjd 04-29-2016 07:34 PM

I do wonder if there's anything that can be salvaged out of this for the DIYer. Was a very interesting project, to be sure. Bummer that it's not happening.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 05-01-2016 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjd (Post 2638208)
I do wonder if there's anything that can be salvaged out of this for the DIYer. Was a very interesting project, to be sure. Bummer that it's not happening.


Doubt it, they supposedly had a bunch of investors look at it and say it's nonviable on a business front. They probably had some pretty expensive components and were going to find cheaper sources closer to production.

What we have learned is amount of work needed to make a totally "connected" car.

cjd 05-03-2016 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2639248)
Doubt it, they supposedly had a bunch of investors look at it and say it's nonviable on a business front. They probably had some pretty expensive components and were going to find cheaper sources closer to production.

What we have learned is amount of work needed to make a totally "connected" car.

I'm not going to expect the price is something that could be done at scale - however, it appears that some pretty nifty software work was completed, and some hardware was sourced that does the job.

I don't expect the software to be open-sourced, but if I were able to get a handle on what parts I needed, where I could get them, and software to power the stuff, I admit I'd be tempted to give it a whirl. I could probably figure out the software given enough time and effort (and desire to make it happen) on my part, but... Maybe I'll get there some day.

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ericmpena 05-20-2016 06:32 AM

Bummer that this got cancelled. I was hoping that I'd come back on these forums and see this project completed.

Cessblood 06-13-2016 09:15 AM

This was a cool idea.

RBenz13 02-07-2018 10:00 PM

I'm still interested to know what specifically was so hard about the climate control to make this a non-viable option for the twins...

RBenz13 12-02-2018 01:04 PM

In case anyone else was still watching this, the website is still stating R&D stages. I just wish the pieces were actually available on Shapeways so that I could start experimenting.

https://workshoptwelve.com/frs-brz-86/

NyC Zn6 12-10-2018 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBenz13 (Post 3160304)
In case anyone else was still watching this, the website is still stating R&D stages. I just wish the pieces were actually available on Shapeways so that I could start experimenting.

https://workshoptwelve.com/frs-brz-86/

:thanks::party0030:

DAEMANO 12-10-2018 11:34 AM

Glad you're still paying attention to this. Did they ever explain what happened when they abruptly folded up and killed the original Braniac project? They were so far along and then out of the blue, Workshop12 posted something like "we were told it won't make money", and them boom. Dead project. From looking at the website, it looks like they reactivated with 370 kits some time ago.

DAEMANO 12-10-2018 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBenz13 (Post 3040811)
I'm still interested to know what specifically was so hard about the climate control to make this a non-viable option for the twins...

Many twins don't have auto climate control. That was the killer application. So they made a list of parts (servos and what not) that needed to be purchased, but before this could be prototyped they seemed to have killed the project.

The list of parts is still in a dead thread somewhere (or maybe even this thread). I've seen it, maybe if I can find it, I'll repost it.

Dadhawk 12-10-2018 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 3162443)
Many twins don't have auto climate control. That was the killer application. So they made a list of parts (servos and what not) that needed to be purchased, but before this could be prototyped they seemed to have killed the project.

The list of parts is still in a dead thread somewhere (or maybe even this thread). I've seen it, maybe if I can find it, I'll repost it.

Seems to me the "easiest" solution for the manual controls would be to relocate the existing manual controls to the bottom or top of the stack and work with the space left, or engineer a smaller set of controls that would take up less room but are plug and play with the existing controls rather than trying to make the system something else.

RBenz13 12-10-2018 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3162446)
Seems to me the "easiest" solution for the manual controls would be to relocate the existing manual controls to the bottom or top of the stack and work with the space left, or engineer a smaller set of controls that would take up less room but are plug and play with the existing controls rather than trying to make the system something else.

This.

I mean, having the HVAC controls built in would be great, this whole Braniac thing is built on Android. That gives the ability to basically do anything your heart contents, including adding this feature later.

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