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Please help. Lots of engine code errors.
Last night I opened the hood and pushed on my header flex joints to make sure they were ok. I also looked at other stuff. This morning the car sounded weird, under powered and sounded like one of the cylinders wasn't working as the UEL sound was much more pronounced. All I could think of was when I was touching the UEL headers so maybe it isn't sealed onto the engine anymore (became loose).
If anyone would like to come over tonight to help figure it out I'd appreciate it. (if I can make it home from work) My scanguage gives me the following error codes: P0202 - Cylinder 2 Injector Circuit Malfunction and these shortly after the one above most of which I can't find descriptions for: U3237 U3337 U3238 P0B37 - High Voltage Service Disconnect Open P0F37 and many more. |
Try resetting the ECU? You have a copy of your tune that you could use to attempt a re-flash?
I had my computer throw a bunch of random errors a while back due to my bluetooth dongle causing some can bus communication issues. I reset and all was back to normal, but I didn't have any mechanical symptoms at the time. |
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I would be there to help if I wasn't busy tonight...good luck hopefully it's nothing crazy
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You can probably guess where I'll be after 6. I'll have tools with me. :D
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Can't make it out tonight. If you're still having issues I'll be able to stop by some time this weekend?
Your analysis reminds me of an old joke I heard about UEL equipped Subaru. Mechanic 1 "How do you know if a modified Subaru is misfiring?" Mechanic 2 "I don't know" Mechanic 1 "Me neither" |
After work I got in my car. I cleared the codes. Started the car. Sounded normal. Sat there a few minutes and no codes and seemed normal. Drove home and even stopped at a couple places on the way. Everything is normal now.
No idea why it decided to crap on my morning but now it's fine. I didn't do anything different. My gas was low this morning but not any lower than it's been in the past, plus I filled up on the way to work, limping along with 3 cylinders. Maybe my car's pissed that I didn't wash it or I took off the side skirts to sell them. Or maybe Matt's luck came to my car so his would work out great. |
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My car worked fine again this morning. Maybe it was a weird issue with me being low on gas the other morning and it needed to sit with a full tank for a while. Who knows.
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My mantra at work, "I fucking hate mysteries."
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I just started my car today for the first time since last night. I'm getting similar engine codes are I was back on July 1st. Not sure why it ran fine late July 1st until now.
Engine codes: P0202 P0032 P0033 P0034 P0037 P0038 I look at the engine and everything looks ok. WTF is going wrong? :( I don't want my car to stop working before next Sunday's 86 meet!!! :( |
Where are the coil packs and how would I go about swapping two different cylinder's coil packs to see if that's the issue?
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The packs are way down just inboard of the frame rails. The connectors stick out the rear-facing side of each coil pack. It's tight down there but, while the engine is cold, practice disconnecting one and then see if you can plug them in just shy of clipping them. Then you can disconnect it, decide, and then reconnect it if it's good. |
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If you're free today I'm home if you'd like to help me. :) If so PM me and I'll give you my info. If you're not free then no worries. |
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These are the coil packs. You'll recognize what I'm calling the frame rails when you locate the coil packs on your engine. http://i.imgur.com/awKyDGq.jpg |
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Does this mean I have a bad coil pack? If so why would it have failed back on the morning of July 1st, then be ok up until this morning? |
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99.5% of the time, intermittent failures are cracked solder joints or other component connections that move relative to each other during expansion and contraction of thermal cycling. |
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Could it also be a fried spark plug? and is the spark plug inside the tube where the coil pack is and to get to the spark plug I'd need to remove the coil pack first? Should I change both? All this makes me wish my debt was paid off and I have my BMW i3 still. I'll be getting an electric car for sure after I pay my shiz off. |
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If the car had 100 Kmi then I would recommend replacing all 4 because they are like light bulbs. They have a certain life expectancy, give or take. In that case, I might just go with some aftermarket ones. |
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When I replaced the coil packs on my daughter's Acura, I pulled one of the iridium-tipped plugs just to check. At 150K, it was practically new. |
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eg p0200 subaru. they are for injectors o2sensors heater circuits. i think you have an electrical problem crook or dying battery or crook alternator causing voltage fluctiuations rearly weird stuff happens in modern cars if voltages not stable. or you have a intermittent short in wirinig to 02 sensors maybe melted ect check your fuses for 02sensor heater circuits, check the 02 sensors are actually plugged in correctly. |
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eg p0202 subaru. they are for injectors o2sensors heater circuits. i think you have an electrical problem crook or dying battery or crook alternator causing voltage fluctiuations rearly weird stuff happens in modern cars if voltages not stable. check earth connections check battery and alternator connections, measure volts when car is running should be stable 14 v or close to that. or you have a intermittent short in wirinig to 02 sensors maybe melted ect check your fuses for 02sensor heater circuits, check the 02 sensors are actually plugged in correctly. |
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Oh, if the codes don't point to a simple misfire, then, yeah. I wouldn't go for the o2 sensor because that wouldn't cause a single cylinder misfire. A dead injector or driver circuit would correspond to a dry misfiring cylinder which would drive the o2 level high because it's just an air compressor. ...probably not the igniter. -____- |
I don't think I've ever changed a coil pack or distributor before, only spark plugs. We shall see if I can find one tomorrow at a dealer, get my tools up there and get the new one in. It's really tight.
Checked the battery and it has the correct voltage. Checked all the wires on the o2 and maf and various other areas like coil packs and they all look tight and stable. I'll check the fuses inside the cabin and let you guys know if I see anything amiss. Would you say don't drive my car until I get the new one installed? Wondering if I should drive it to get parts and to work or work from home. |
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P0202 is a dead giveaway and fits with the misfiring cylinder. Injector or circuit. http://i.imgur.com/v8k6lwY.png |
@steve99, are there fuses for each injector driver or is it just one fuse?
If there's just one fuse, I'm going to suspect bad port injector. Swap #2 and #4 injectors and see if the code changes to a P0204. |
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If in either of those scenarios you keep getting P0202, then the problem lies in the connector or upstream. There are other things you could do to test but it requires a multimeter and/or a 12V pwr supply to test or trigger the injector manually. |
For reference, these are the codes that indicate a coil pack/igniter.
http://i.imgur.com/BJKy9dH.png |
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