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-   -   RACESENG X PENSKE | The Ultimate Racing Shocks (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89839)

CSG Mike 08-15-2015 01:27 AM

@Raceseng why do we not have a set of these in our hands???!? Stop holding out on us!

cdrazic93 08-15-2015 02:42 AM

why dont I have a set in my hands, thats a better question...Im first Mike! lol jk, i wish i had money.

solidONE 08-15-2015 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Shankenstein (Post 2357957)
They're the high-flow linear piston. Doesn't appear to be much (if any) dish either.
http://store.resuspension.com/images/P/P-PI-HF12005.jpg

Remote canister (not piggyback) and the double-adjuster on the shaft make it seem like they're developing with the 8760 adjusters.
http://i1.wp.com/www.macsmotorcityga...damper-web.jpg

As they've said all along, these will not be cheap... but for those who want a no-corners-cut set of coilovers, this is as good as it gets.

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Originally Posted by RBbugBITme (Post 2358051)
The above diagram looks old and isn't correct. Page 23 I think in the below manual is correct.

http://www.penskeshocks.com/assets/A...%20Manual1.pdf

The raceseng build will have high flows. I think they're 1º/2º dish with 2 on compression. I'll leave it up to Jarrett to post more build details if he wants when we're done testing.

High flows with bleed shims are great for street driven cars.

Ah.. Okay. I guess they used to call the high flow linear piston "progressive". I think these might be the same shock I have on my bike, except mine have an extra high speed compression adjuster on the canister. Good stuff.

KoolBRZ 08-15-2015 02:47 PM

What some people fail to understand is that this isn't an open-source product. There are secrets that simply can't be made public otherwise they couldn't be patented since they are now public knowledge. If you want even the smallest chance of hearing about cutting edge secret technology, send a PM to @RBbugBITme. I plan to. The things I plan to discuss are nobody else's business, but I'll give you a hint. I'm really tired of scraping curbs with my lowered suspension, but I like how it rides and looks. That's all you're going to get from me on that subject.

solidONE 08-22-2015 04:33 PM

I was about to boast about how I've been beating up on my penske shock for 3-4 years without rebuild (similar model shock as this kit they're putting together). http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...FA637E31CC.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...63013D7217.jpg

Guess I spoke to soon. A small/slow oil leak from the seal.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...05EAF7838E.jpg

Good thing I got this Showa OE Kawasaki spec 3-way shock as back-up. Ain't a Penske shock but it's better than nothing. (The Showa sucks balls is what I'm trying to say. Relatively speaking)
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...E967E0AACB.jpg

To be fair, I've beaten the shit out of this bike and it's parked outdoors 365 days a year for about 4 years with this Penske shock.

8686 08-27-2015 12:17 AM

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abraxis 08-27-2015 02:35 AM

Are you guys seriously going to carve out your logo from a load bearing structure? Can you just skip it and pass the savings in time and tooling on to the consumer? Or how about a delete logo option. I know you guys aren't balancing your pulleys either. Please use some engineering if you are going to have it in your name. Thanks a bunch.

MaximeT 08-27-2015 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by abraxis (Post 2371297)
Are you guys seriously going to carve out your logo from a load bearing structure? Can you just skip it and pass the savings in time and tooling on to the consumer? Or how about a delete logo option. I know you guys aren't balancing your pulleys either. Please use some engineering if you are going to have it in your name. Thanks a bunch.

Looks like an aggressive post to a non native english speaker.

abraxis 08-27-2015 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MaximeT (Post 2371335)
Looks like an aggressive post to a non native english speaker.

At least you acknowledge your limitations. :thumbsup: Don't watch Benny Hill, you might explode.

MaximeT 08-27-2015 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abraxis (Post 2371347)
At least you acknowledge your limitations. :thumbsup: Don't watch Benny Hill, you might explode.

This one too, mostly :)

OkieSnuffBox 08-27-2015 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abraxis (Post 2371297)
Are you guys seriously going to carve out your logo from a load bearing structure? Can you just skip it and pass the savings in time and tooling on to the consumer? Or how about a delete logo option. I know you guys aren't balancing your pulleys either. Please use some engineering if you are going to have it in your name. Thanks a bunch.


Can you provide your engineering analysis, at a minimum I'll be expecting some FEA (so you'll need to provide thickness, material, motion ratio of the rear suspension, expected load the mounting plate sees, etc) to show that the logo is bringing down the rated load for the part below what is acceptable?

Oh, you don't have it and are just trying to sound smart on the internetz.

Got it.

MaximeT 08-27-2015 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox (Post 2371371)
Can you provide your engineering analysis, at a minimum I'll be expecting some FEA (so you'll need to provide thickness, material, motion ratio of the rear suspension, expected load the mounting plate sees, etc) to show that the logo is bringing down the rated load for the part below what is acceptable?

Oh, you don't have it and are just trying to sound smart on the internetz.

Got it.

My vote for option 2 o/

abraxis 08-27-2015 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox (Post 2371371)
Can you provide your engineering analysis, at a minimum I'll be expecting some FEA (so you'll need to provide thickness, material, motion ratio of the rear suspension, expected load the mounting plate sees, etc) to show that the logo is bringing down the rated load for the part below what is acceptable?

Oh, you don't have it and are just trying to sound smart on the internetz.

Got it.

You need a number to know about stress risers in unfinished machined metal with the unnecessary localized removal of material? Nice red herring. I'd ask you to provide the balancing numbers on RaceEng pulleys first. Thanks. Better yet, since you asked, and they are the actual 'engineering' company selling a performance product, maybe we can get them to publish those numbers for you so we can all be happy? Good idea!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_concentration

Personally I think it's a waste of time and money to introduce a potential point of stress on a suspension component for the sake of bling and marketing. If you find that a prime example of good engineering, good on ya. I hope I don't fly in any of your airplanes.

But hey, if you like to laser etch 'NASA' into your o-rings be my guest.

OkieSnuffBox 08-27-2015 07:48 PM

Why do I have to provide numbers on their pulleys? I couldn't care less because I won't be running.

You're the one claiming they should do some actual engineering for their products. No one else seems concerned about a known high-quality company and the products they release for the public.

And now your comparing O-rings to a mounting plate. Great change of direction. Have a nice day!


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