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EINSTEIN562 06-10-2015 03:07 PM

Engine Oil for DD/Track
 
I am looking for suggestions on what type of oil to run for DD w/2-3 track days per oil change in SoCal climate. Engine is stock and I am going to be running a Jackson Racing oil cooler. Temps shouldn't be an issue considering most are not seeing anything above 220 degrees with an oil cooler in NA form.

Pat 06-10-2015 03:53 PM

Any quality full synthetic should get the job done. 5-30 will work, as will 0-20.
You would be well-served to search before asking questions. There is a lot of great information already out there, including this.

midnight23 06-11-2015 12:40 AM

i'm using motul 300v now but had 8100 eco energy before that.

EINSTEIN562 06-11-2015 03:37 AM

@midnight23 Did u ever track on 8100? If so what were the max oil temps?

ATL BRZ 06-11-2015 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EINSTEIN562 (Post 2281934)
I am looking for suggestions on what type of oil to run for DD w/2-3 track days per oil change in SoCal climate. Engine is stock and I am going to be running a Jackson Racing oil cooler. Temps shouldn't be an issue considering most are not seeing anything above 220 degrees with an oil cooler in NA form.


I run and recommend Millers Nanodrive CFS 0W-30 NT. It's a true race oil that can be used on the street for longer intervals. It features nanotechnology that allows significant friction reduction that adds measurable power with added durability.

It's dyno proven to add 6wp and 3wtq to a stock 86 and myself and others have UOAs showing clean bills of health after 3k miles of E85 fueled track abuse and 7k miles of spirited street driving.

Product link: http://performanceracingoils.com/cfs-0w20-nt-p-48.html

FAQ's: http://performanceracingoils.com/faqs-ezp-2.html

Case study on longevity: http://performanceracingoils.com/PDF...case_study.pdf

Dyno proof: http://www.millersoils.co.uk/news/20...Power-Test.asp

nikitopo 06-11-2015 03:17 PM

Don't go more than 0W30 or 5W30. You can find a detail analysis by Total and Subaru here:

http://www.pleiades-zero.com/


They say that in racing applications 0w30 is ideal for the FA20 engine. Motul 300v 5W30 also has similar specs.

OkieSnuffBox 06-11-2015 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 2283421)
I run and recommend Millers Nanodrive CFS 0W-30 NT. It's a true race oil that can be used on the street for longer intervals. It features nanotechnology that allows significant friction reduction that adds measurable power with added durability.

It's dyno proven to add 6wp and 3wtq to a stock 86 and myself and others have UOAs showing clean bills of health after 3k miles of E85 fueled track abuse and 7k miles of spirited street driving.

Product link: http://performanceracingoils.com/cfs-0w20-nt-p-48.html

FAQ's: http://performanceracingoils.com/faqs-ezp-2.html

Case study on longevity: http://performanceracingoils.com/PDF...case_study.pdf

Dyno proof: http://www.millersoils.co.uk/news/20...Power-Test.asp



Nice! Quite pricey though.


With an oil cooler you're looking at $160 oil changes. Although with my typical mileage that would only be 2x a year at this point.

nikitopo 06-11-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by midnight23 (Post 2282749)
i'm using motul 300v now but had 8100 eco energy before that.

Motul 8100 range lasts longer, but it is not for heavy usage. It depends on what you want to focus ...

ATL BRZ 06-11-2015 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 2283447)
Don't go more than 0W30 or 5W30. You can find a detail analysis by Total and Subaru here:

http://www.pleiades-zero.com/


They say that in racing applications 0w30 is ideal for the FA20 engine. Motul 300v 5W30 also has similar specs.

The Toyota GT86 Cup car user manual suggests a 10W-60 oil for a racing application: http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/mot...al_2014_02.pdf

nikitopo 06-11-2015 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 2283482)
The Toyota GT86 Cup car user manual suggests a 10W-60 oil for a racing application: http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/mot...al_2014_02.pdf

This is a dedicated racing car and it is not even street legal. The engine of this car is proposed to be changed/rebuild every 10000 km! We are not discussing about such cases. User asked about an oil recommendation for a daily driven car with a few track events. Whoever uses 10W-60 oil on streets is damaging his engine.

EINSTEIN562 06-11-2015 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 2283475)
Motul 8100 range lasts longer, but it is not for heavy usage. It depends on what you want to focus ...

Are you saying that 8100 is not up to the task of track duty, even with an oil cooler? If so, is Motul 300V my only option? Seems like overkill for a DD with light track duty. Surely there is something in between that fits my intended use. I plan on sticking with 0w20, is there any reason why I should go with a 0w30 or 5w30 instead?

mav1178 06-11-2015 07:56 PM

300V is great but if you have to ask if it's good for DD or not, you generally would not need it.

https://www.motul.com/ca/en-us/community/446

mav1178 06-11-2015 07:58 PM

Or you can resort to Google to find gems like this:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1817829

ATL BRZ 06-11-2015 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 2283716)
This is a dedicated racing car and it is not even street legal. The engine of this car is proposed to be changed/rebuild every 10000 km! We are not discussing about such cases. User asked about an oil recommendation for a daily driven car with a few track events. Whoever uses 10W-60 oil on streets is damaging his engine.

You literally said "racing applications."


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