BRZ vs RX7 FC3S
 

Well guys, I've been shopping around lately about buying my next car. I am no longer interested in the WRX/STi, Focus RS, Civic Si. I am interested in the 987 Cayman S or the FC3S. Found a great Turbo II, I think it's a great platform for potential power. This will be my second FC but this time it's a turbo. I love the old school 13B and the rotary. What do you guys think?

Rotary is one of those things, you either like it or your dont. And then there is working on it and the little quirks that they have. The gas mileage is the worst thing for me. But that sound though.

I would love one to death. But can't fit comfortably lol. As a second car I say go for it. 7's are some of my favorite cars of all time.

If you get the 7, hit me up. Mine went to its great reward and I have lots of cool parts with nothing to bolt them to.

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will take you up on it.

What didn't you like about the new wrx/sti?

Other than it being fugly?

I've owned 4 subarus in my lifetime, 2003 WRX, 2005 STi, 2012 WRX, 01 2.5RS. Time to move on, looking for something with a more mechanical feel. I'm an old fan of 80's and 90's sports car. Im born in the mid 80's. Have you ever driven an FC? It feels very mechanical and you don't feel all them electronic gizmo. It has its own character. I just know that I won't be happy with a BRZ because of the power and torque dips. I know that you can remedy those stuff but I don't really like to follow the crowd. I've looked into buying a Cayman S, 987.1 or 987.2. Those cars fit in my $35,000 budget.

By "character" you mean the electrical system, right? ;)

I miss mine. It was like trying to steer a runaway rocket and roared like one too.

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Sounds like you already know what you want, never driven an FC. Love the FD though.

Torque dip remedy is only about $1,000. I too love the lightweight underpowered Japanese FR cars, hence why I'm driving a modern one XD. I'm hoping my next car will be a new Cayman S, those 2015s are seeeeexxxxxy.

I like Rotary's...I want to eventually get a first gen one...

Like you, I also love those 80's cars (have owned 3 AW11 MR2s...may eventually get another...I always have my eye open for a good one lol).

Ya like whatya like.

Warning...as far as owning a Rotary or an older car...your enjoyment will come a lot from picking a "good one" and also know how to fix the little things.

I can fix the little things, but I cannot fix the big things...so picking a "good one" is really important for me.

If you can do lots of mechanic stuff, you can probably do better at picking than me.

Is there anything wrong with the Mk.3 poopra? The cayman is what i would have shopped for if i didnt look at the 86.

always fun to shop for the MR2's, especially the AW-11's.

Theres also older 911 S/C's that are just a kick in the pants. Dont forget about the Pantera. E30 M3 perhaps?

I know, right? I've often had the mindset of "she's ugly but she puts out" with some cars, but the new STi is just too ugly for TV. Would. Not. Buy.

WRXs have always had a great style and as I walked into Subaru to check out the BRZ I was afraid I would like whatever the new WRX was, then I saw it and I threw up in my mouth a little. "So, where are the BRZs?"

Ever since I upgraded the clutch and pressure plate but kept the stock flywheel, I've not really noticed the torque dip as it revs up faster now. I thought Porsche also has this torque dip around the same rev range (been a while since I've driven a 986 2.7L so can't quite remember).

I think ever since the early to mid 2000s that mechanical feeling with sport compact cars have slowly been disappearing.

Guess I'm the only one who thinks the new wrx looks the best so far lol. Don't get me wrong its still not a beautiful car but I think by it looking more EVO xish it appeals to me more

If you have a $35k budget, why would you buy an FC instead of an FD? It's possible to get FDs in fairly good condition for as low as $10k-$15k... I even see shells for as low as $5k some times, which is a pretty good deal if you're willing to put in the work (or want an LSx instead of a rotary anyway :P)...

Turbo FC arent even that much faster then BRZ/FRS.... owned both NA FC and Turbo FC....
but seriously tho! go test drive the Cayman then decide ;)

From those two options, FC without a doubt

I still miss my FC3S Turbo II. Loved everything about it except the electrical system. So I'm definitely biased in opinion, but since it won't be a DD, I'd say get the FC.

Wasn't that bad as long as you had spare wiper switches and cleaned the window contacts daily... :P

My center dash warning light module would light up like a Christmas tree sometimes too, even though everything was fine in the car...
Car came with the factory security system, which would randomly sound, so at its worst, I was disconnecting the battery every time I was done driving for the day until I permanently disabled the system.
And yeah... Those pesky switches. Even with all those electrical issues though, I loved that car.

i went a little overboard wanting the mechanical feel again....

love me some rotary though, this is my 3rd rx-7(have two at the moment) along with my FR-s daily


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Pics of my old 1990 Turbo II; I loved that car; for all of four months before the apex seals went... It had 203k on it, so it was on its second engine already. Oh well! It was fun for a $2000 car bought sight unseen on eBay. I parted it out and made my money back. The exhaust note was great, driving dynamics were a lot of fun, but the gearbox was a little iffy (probably due to mileage) and the interior plastics were rubbish; I broke a few pieces trying to take them off.

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beautiful car.. but too many horror stories.

....I used to have two of them....they both blew up. However. I have the softest of soft spots for the FC3S. And despite my best judgement I will probably own another.

Rotary powered Twin. The end.

-Very very bad power to weight ratio unless you have a 1jz swap and still kind of a porker
-Bad suspension design from the get go (early multi link/double wishbone)
-Steering angle is a joke
-did I mention how heavy it is?




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